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Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:11 pm
by T100SS
We live quite near some picturesque buildings and countryside. We have a tidyish Traveller. We've looking around on line to see what pitfalls there might be in providing car and driver for short (day/ half-day) runs to watch wildlife or visit interesting places.

Has anyone done/tried this sort of thing and if so, has anyone any information we should consider?

We are looking into insurance and have messaged Swansea re any MOT and licensing issues but would still appreciate any comment on those topics.
Ta

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:53 pm
by MarkyB
If you have to get hire and reward insurance it will be very expensive, ask a mini cab driver.

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:41 pm
by JOWETTJAVELIN
The problem is modern society's 'blame culture' with certain people who'd sue you for breaking a fingernail. I believe there are even career 'victims' making people's lives a misery for pure monetary gain. Sad, but all too true in these end times.

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 11:46 pm
by millerman
Do your sums and if it looks viable give it a go

Posters need to be more positive!

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:45 am
by T100SS
Thanks for the encouragement.
We have all but given up, as it is Sheffield Council regs that deny us this opportunity (possibly elsewhere too) for example by stating that no vehicle over 5 years old can apply for hire licensing. That must have been invented by BMW sorry I meant European Council...

So regardless of condition, 5 years and you're out.

Wonder what laws apply to the Tiger Moth we see daily carrying passengers?

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:35 pm
by Blades
Could the council be thinking that you want to use the traveller as a taxi rather than renting it out

There does seem to be a few car companies that rent out classic cars

Nick

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:11 pm
by margriff
There are loads of people hiring out their classics. Just look at the end of term proms at secondary schools and Uni's. All the kids turn up in cadillacs, VW vans, London red buses and all sorts of vehicles well over 5 years old. They drive rounds for 30 minutes and then drop them of at the 'do' and charge an arm and a leg. Probably to cover the insurance.

I wonder wether the rules differ depending on wether you drive the customer or the customer drive the vehicle themselves? :-?
Sounds like a good business venture and good use of a fantastic car. :D

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:39 pm
by bmcecosse
You are not a Taxi -you are offering a Classic Tour - using a classic car. Provided you get Insurance Cover I don't see it's any of the Council's business.... Many many buses in use today are WELL over 5 years old ! Do they have a 'Small Business Start Up' department? Go ask them!

Re: Classic Tours - easy or hard to do?

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:05 am
by T100SS
Very encouraging and exactly the questions buzzing around in our heads. Apparently Sheffield regard this as taxi-like and treat/regulate it accordingly.

I have to say I didn't know about the end of term rental/hire but I was aware of differences in hire of vehicle/vehicle and driver.

I have spoken to a few insurance companies and they all said either they couldn't or that we'd have to get a license from our local council before they could. Sums quoted? Intergalactic love.

I might indeed ask the business start up people but I'm painfully aware of their actual mismanagement. At least if they can help me get through this shower of horse muck that Sheffield Council perpetually generates (on all issues) that would be something.

It is a lovely idea but I'm notorious for lovely yet impracticable ideas - like buying a flippin Morris...

But thank you again for the positivism. Living in a city that is more anal than the USSR you get used to not trying. A friend has just done the Knowledge at Chesterfield (Derbyshire) and they have different rules - maybe it's an excuse to flit; we could take on the restoration of a mansion while we're at it...Or maybe she could be the business address...hmmm