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Help!Distributor, ignition timing/ indicators +trafficators

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:43 pm
by mr2daniel
Hello everyone,

Can anyone help me find out why my distributor has change of position after engine rebuild ?
Before the rebuild [frame]Image[/frame]
After the rebuild
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Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:59 pm
by lambrettalad
is the engine working? if so it has been retimed so don't worry
if it was a total rebuild ,you need to re time the engine from zero.Do you have a workshop manual?did you do the rebuild?

more info please :D

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:34 pm
by simmitc
The distributor drive shaft has been put back in a different place. The bottom of the shaft is a helical gear that engages inside the engine, the top part as a keyway into which the distributor fits. The dizzy can fit only one way round, whereas the gear can engage on any of the teeth. It is relatively simple to extract the drive gear and put it back one tooth round. If you have the manual, it will tell you how. If not, and you want to do it, just ask.

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:39 pm
by mr2daniel
I did the rebuild my self, new bearings ,pistons rings and a good clean.
the first time i try to start, it start backfiring and not starting.After checking everything 3 times i find out that i didn t put the distributor drive gear on timing.Done has it is in the workshop Manual.
I did that today , and then checked de ignition timing and that s when the distributor had to move forward.
Car started straight away and is runing alright,not sure what as changed. :(

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:44 pm
by mr2daniel
I have done it like de worshop manual says, can you let me know how to do it, at this moment i can t refit the vacuum pipe.

thank you

da

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:35 pm
by bmcecosse
As others have suggested - you need to move the drive shaft round anti-clockwise. Did you have the shaft out during the rebuild?? It's only a 5 minute job....

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:59 am
by David W.
It looks like you are just about 90 degrees out. What if you were to move the dizzy anticlockwise by 90 degrees and reindex the wires.

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:34 am
by bmcecosse
Well spotted David! I hadn't noticed it has a different cap and leads - I suspect your idea is right!

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:32 pm
by mr2daniel
Hi David

What is the dizzy ? Is that the distributor or the drive gear ?

Thx

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:52 pm
by bmcecosse
Short for 'distributor' which I for one can't be bothered typing every time!! So the idea is you slacken the clamp and turn the 'dizzy' 90 degrees anticlock, and then you move all the plug leads 90 degrees clockwise round the cap - and it will be pretty much perfect! :D

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:58 pm
by mr2daniel
Thank you,

But if i change it to 90 degrees ,than is to far back.is there another way?

Thx Dan

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:20 pm
by katy
I have done it like de worshop manual says
I take it from that statement that you have the workshop manual.

Correct Installation of the distributor drive spindle is explained on page AA.23, it is also shown in Fig. AA.20 on page AA.22.
You're going to have to remove the distributor, withdraw the drive spindle and rotate it anti-clockwise 1 or 2 teeth before re-installing it.

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:48 pm
by mr2daniel
:D Just did it and is runing fine ,and the distributor is now in the good place.Thx Katy

Now need some help on how to check if my alternator is working and here should i connect my inside fan?

thx everyone

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:57 pm
by lambrettalad
try this post for charging information,just for my curiosity where are you ?

http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=48729

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:24 pm
by bmcecosse
Face the car towards a wall at night. Switch on the headlights. Now - start the engine and rev up - do the lights shine more brightly?? if noit sure - stop the engine - do they go dim?? With a DC voltmeter - should show 13.6/13.8 volts when revving up with headlights on and heater fan running.

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:55 pm
by mr2daniel
Turn the dizzy 90 degrees anti-clock[frame]Image[/frame]
than turn the drive gear and it work out[frame]Image[/frame]
The dynamo looks to be broken, can t get more than 12v off it.
I am from Holland.
Thank you for all your help.

Re: Help!Distributor and ignition timing

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:31 pm
by bmcecosse
Dynamo probably just needs new brushes. Inexpensive and easy to fit.

Indicators + trafficators

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:38 pm
by mr2daniel
Thank you bmc.
My new question is can i conect trafficators to my indicators? Where can i find a trafficator wiring diagram.


Cheers

Re: Help!Distributor, ignition timing/ indicators +trafficators

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:49 pm
by bmcecosse
It certainly CAN be done. I'm sure it has been well discussed before - try a 'search' .....

Re: Help!Distributor, ignition timing/ indicators +trafficators

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:55 pm
by mike.perry
Wiring diagram for trafficators http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk Tech Info, Indicator and Trafficator wiring diagram