Morris Minor Owners Club

Hi all, can anyone tell me the curb weight and the GVW of a 1970 moggy van please.

Kerb weight, 6 cwt van = 1719 lbs (779 kg)

mike.perry wrote:Kerb weight, 6 cwt van = 1719 lbs (779 kg)

Thanks for your reply Mike I ask because there seems to be different translations of CWT.
wikipedia says 1 cwt is 112lbs or 50.802345 kg so 6 cwt would be 304.81 kg. rearly confused

I think 6 cwt is the load capacity , not the kerb weight?

Taupe

Thanks Taupe, this is what Im trying to find out. My van has a custom body on it. When I weighed it on a rolling road it was 1160 Kg. Im trying to work out if it over weight. A late van is 8 cwt and GVW or MAM is curb weight + load. I beleive an 8cwt van can cary that load ?
Then there is this,
http://www.classiccarportraits.co.uk/pa ... WT6570.htm
Unladen weight of a 6 cwt is 15 cwt. So a van GVW would be 21 cwt ?????

803 and 948 vans had a carrying capacity of 5 cwt, 1098 had 6 cwt capacity and later 1098 with heavy duty suspension had a capacity of 8cwt.
Kerb weight is the weight of the unladen vehicle with fluids and I believe, the driver.
112 lbs = 1 cwt, 20 cwt = 1 imperial ton, not to be confused with 1 metric tonne

So the GVW of a late van is 15 cwt + 8cwt= 23cwt
1 cwt = 50.8 kg
23 x 50.8 = 1168.4 kg = 1.168 metric tonne

Kerb weight does NOT include the driver as this is infinitely variable, he could be either very fat or rather thin.

The confusion over kerb weight is understandable: the old UK definition was of the vehicle with a full tank of fuel, all other necessary fluids, and any loose tools normally supplied with the vehicle; the EU definition has 90% of fuel but allows 68Kg for the driver and 7Kg "tools".

There is no confusion over cwt. 1 hundredweight (cwt) is 112lb, or 8 stones, and a ton is 20cwt. And I didn't have to look it up.

Commercial vehicles in the UK used to be denoted by their carrying capacity, e.g. a 5cwt van could carry 5cwt.

Kevin

Trust the you know who to make it all nice and easy for us to understand.

autolycus wrote: There is no confusion over cwt. 1 hundredweight (cwt) is 112lb, or 8 stones, and a ton is 20cwt. And I didn't have to look it up.
Kevin

Neither did I, we must be getting old....16oz = 1lb, 14lbs = 1stone etc, etc

So my calculation of 1.25 tonne with a passinger and drive would be about right ???

The book quotes;

1.12,1.14 or 1.20 GVW for 6cwt & PO vans

1.24 GVW for Austin/Morris 8cwt vans

POMMReg wrote:The book quotes;

1.12,1.14 or 1.20 GVW for 6cwt & PO vans

1.24 GVW for Austin/Morris 8cwt vans

Thanks very much, The vans not over weight

If it weighs 1160kg on the rolling load, and if its MAM is 1240kg, as POMMReg says, then that only leaves 80kg for driver, passenger, extra fuel, and any load in this "custom body". Not much in hand there, is there?

It must take some doing to build such a heavy body. Bullion van? Armoured car? Motorhome?

Kevin

My daughter's little 1997 Renault Clio has a kerb weight of 930Kg. Does this mean with almost a full fuel tank?

Morris Minor Post Office Telephones Van 6 cwt 1968-71

Kerb weight: 14.5cwt or 1624 lbs

This is from the original literature.

Vigil