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Headlight

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:16 pm
by andygill
Hi

Just got my new halogen headlights. However they have a different connection to thee existing (as seen below).

Is there some sort of converter I can get.

Thanks
Andy
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Re: Headlight

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:56 pm
by linearaudio
Errr... Try taking that black rubber bit off, it is just a dust cover!!. There is also a black plastic plug under the boot which seals the hole where the bulb fits, just held in with the spring wire bulb clip. All will become apparent, but you will need to buy 2x H4 55/60w halogen bulbs to go in the back of your new headlight shells, then the rubber boot goes on, then your standard connector will just push on like before!
Just bought a
similar pair of headlight shells myself, Durite 0-422-50, £8.82 each inc VAT. Were yours that cheap? I was amazed at the price :D

Re: Headlight

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:19 pm
by andygill
Thanks for that it makes a bit more sense.

What do you mean by boot.

I've taken the large rubber sleeve off and the plastic cap which was covering the connections.

Do I simply connect now and fit or do I try and reapply the rubber sleeve.

My headlamps can with bulbs so I should be OK on that front they were a similar price although postage was a bit steep.

Cheers
Andy

Re: Headlight

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:19 pm
by bmcecosse
Yes you must refit the rubber boot! It's there to keep the reflector dry......

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:34 am
by andygill
Fitted the headlight.

Unfortunately it doesn't work is there anything I can check (electrically) bearing in mind I'm a novice !!!

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:15 pm
by Trickydicky
Are both not working or is it just one? You need to check first that the bulbs are working, they may have been damaged, if they are working do you have a test lamp or a multi meter to test that you have power to the light unit? also have you checked you have not blown a fuse?

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:25 pm
by andygill
Trickydicky wrote:Are both not working or is it just one? You need to check first that the bulbs are working, they may have been damaged, if they are working do you have a test lamp or a multi meter to test that you have power to the light unit? also have you checked you have not blown a fuse?
Only one (the passengers side) doesn't work.

The old light doesn't work and the new halogen one doesn't.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:08 pm
by Trickydicky
Check for power to the connections with a multimeter, if you have no power you need to trace the wires back and check you have no breaks in the wires.

Why have you changed to halogens? is it because the old light did not work? also moving up to halogens will use more power if you use the car as a daily driver, have you upgraded to an alternator and a bigger capacity battery?

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:23 pm
by andygill
Trickydicky wrote: Why have you changed to halogens? is it because the old light did not work? also moving up to halogens will use more power if you use the car as a daily driver, have you upgraded to an alternator and a bigger capacity battery?
I changed them beacuse the old light didn't work (although it now appears the actual light is OK). A lot of people recommended halogens (brighter etc).

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:43 pm
by bmcecosse
Halogens are of course better - they DO NOT use more power - where does that come from???? Absolutely no need to change the dynamo. And there are no fuses in the headlight circuits..... Obviously the problem is in the wiring to that lamp - not the headlight at all.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:05 pm
by Trickydicky
I am sure someone posted on here that they had upgraded the Dynamo and the Battery after fitting halogens.

Anyway trace and check the wiring back from the headlight to the loom as one of the bullet connectors could have come apart.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:38 pm
by bmcecosse
Obviously you 'can' fit an alternator - but halogen headlights do not require that - and an 'uprated' battery is never required....

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:58 pm
by andygill
Sorted !!!!!

It was a loose connection. So I've ended up with new headlights I didn't need !!

At least they are halogens and like Blackpool illuminations when on !!!

Thanks for you help.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:04 pm
by bmcecosse
Great success.......

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:13 pm
by mike.perry
I suppose that if you never drive on unlit roads then halogen lights would be a waste of money

Re: Headlight

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:44 pm
by bmcecosse
Indeed - but recently I had to use my Trav at 5am on unlit roads - and the sealed beams are remarkably good. Certainly good enough for any sane Minor motoring.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:48 pm
by whyperion
But when a sealed beam filament goes there needs to be some kind of cheaper replacement.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:50 pm
by bmcecosse
I've got a bag full of them...... All I'm saying above is - no great need to rush to fit halogens - sealed beams are fine. But of course - if a sealed beam fails, by all means use that as the excuse to fit the halogens.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:39 am
by andygill
andygill wrote:Sorted !!!!!

It was a loose connection. So I've ended up with new headlights I didn't need !!

At least they are halogens and like Blackpool illuminations when on !!!

Thanks for you help.
Thought it was to good to be true !!

The headlight now isn't on full beam. Is there a separate wire for full and half. I cleaned the connections last night but this time it didn't work.

Re: Headlight

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:56 pm
by bmcecosse
Yes - there is blue/white for main beam, and blue /red for dip beam. And a black earth wire.......