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Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:18 pm
by Dylan1970
Hi all me again, Can anyone advise me why the heater control box under the dash is very hot when it is not on???
Cheers :D

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:27 pm
by mike.perry
What sort of heater? If it is the circular type it will still have hot water circulating through it when the fan is off.
The later heater should be cooled by the fresh air trunking

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:14 pm
by chrisryder
The later heater doesn't appear to be cooled by the fresh air intake. It still gets pretty warm when the water tap is open.

You say the heater 'isn't on'. Do you mean the fan, or have you actually closed off the water tap too? If you haven't turned off the water tap, then hot water will still be flowing through. If you have turned off the tap... odds are it isn't closing properly!

I leave my heater tap open all year round anyway, as it gives a bit more engine cooling, and helps water to circulated from the back of the head. I just drive with the window open to keep cool, and avoid touching the hot heater!

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:32 pm
by bmcecosse
ALWAYS leave the tap ON - and be glad it's hot!

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:56 pm
by MarkyB
Use it as it was designed to be used, turning the water on once in a while won't hurt particularly on a cool evening.
As has been said elsewhere the cooling system is over specification for the engine size.
If you are stuck in traffic for a while and the engine shows signs of misfiring, turn it on and see if it helps.

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:05 am
by Dylan1970
Where can I find this tap guys???? as heater box under dash is very hot(can fry an egg on it) :D

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:38 pm
by bmcecosse
And so it should be - don't shut it off.

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:55 pm
by MarkyB
Look at the back of the rocker box, there are different designs depending on the year of the car but it should be pretty obvious.

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:48 pm
by izzi
Hi,

This problem may indicate that the thermostat is not working properly.

Roy. :)

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:08 pm
by bmcecosse
It would surely be COLD then.....since stats always fail open.

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:53 pm
by izzi
I do agree that if a stat has a mechanical failure its designed to keep the engine cool rather than overheat.

However a fault caused by sludge etc; could cause the stat not to operate properly.

Surely you must have seen stats stuck in the open or closed position in your experience.

Roy. :)

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:47 pm
by bmcecosse
NEVER experienced or heard of one stuck closed.....

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 am
by MarkyB
It does seem to be possible, albeit rare;
Thermostat Failure
The thermostat is pretty simple and rarely causes problems, but when it fails the results can be disastrous. The worst case scenario is when the thermostat sticks shut, which can happen if the wax element has been damaged by previous overheating, corrosion or age. If it sticks shut, it will block the circulation of coolant between the engine and radiator causing the engine to overheat.

If the thermostat fails to close, which can happen if the sensing element binds up, the return spring breaks or a piece of rust or debris jams it open, the constant flow of coolant through the thermostat will prevent the engine from reaching normal operating temperature. This can cause poor driveability in cold weather, a sharp increase in fuel consumption, little or no heater output, and accelerated blowby and ring and cylinder wear.

Re: Heater box under dash is very hot?

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:36 pm
by dalebrignall
the heater tap is at the rear of the engine near the bulkhead on the left as you look at the engine .