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Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:57 pm
by Boomlander
Hi Folks,
Can anybody tell me which size and type of socket I need to remove the oil pressure relief valve - looks to be about 25mm.

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:15 pm
by bmcecosse
NOTHING on a Minor is metric..... DO NOT use metric sockets or spanners.... IIRC it's 1" AF.
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:51 pm
by Boomlander
I guessed it would be 1" but wasn't sure if it was AF, Whitworth or Woolworth!
Many thanks Roy.

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:21 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
bmcecosse wrote:NOTHING on a Minor is metric..... DO NOT use metric sockets or spanners....
Not true, over the years a few nuts and bolts may well have been replaced by metric ones by a previous owner..
Also If a metric happens to fit better due to a damaged/corroded nut bolt etc I see absolutely no reason why not to use it! Again if you have a 13mm ratchet spanner, then this can come in very useful as its basically 1/2"
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:16 pm
by JOWETTJAVELIN
As far as I'm concerned, if there's no danger of rounding off a bolt head with a metric socket, for instance on low force areas such as the rocker cover bolts, then go for it. But you should really use the correct spanners.
I would say this, having packed the big ends with shimstock...

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:23 am
by RobThomas
NOTHING on a Minor is metric......
Apart from
all of the wheel bearings, MM engines, MM gearbox components etc. Whit headed bolts and nuts on MMs are interchangeable with 'Metric fine' sizes so cheaper metric parts may abound.
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:02 am
by bmcecosse
Yes - I knew that was coming - but you don't use spanners on wheel bearings....... and the MM bolts may have metric threads - but NOT metric heads. 13mm is far too loose on a 1/2" AF bolt/nut - and use of such is a major cause of rounded off fittings and skinned knuckles. Seriously - don't do it!! In extremis - it may be necessary to hammer a 12mm socket onto a badly worn 1/2" AF fitting in an attempt to remove it. It should then be thrown away - and new parts fitted.
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:53 pm
by Boomlander
Bought a 1" AF socket for the princely sum of £3.82 including postage - fits perfectly!

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:30 pm
by MarkyB
Go easy tightening it up, the head size is no indication of how much force it needs!
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:04 am
by grey111
I use the 'woolworth' normally

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:08 am
by chickenjohn
Boomlander wrote:Bought a 1" AF socket for the princely sum of £3.82 including postage - fits perfectly!

Good!
General socket size rule of thumb for post MM Minors is Whitworth on the body and AF on the engine.
Only suspect Metric may have been fitted if it is a nut and bolt, eg holding front panel or sill covers on etc.
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:34 pm
by Boomlander
Fitted the new oil pressure relief valve today - Pig of a job trying to get the thread to catch on the securing nut while pushing on the nut at the same time against the pressure of the spring!
Finally used a small socket on the end of a socket extension to push on the dome of the nut compressing the spring and then turning the nut till the threads caught enough to hold it without springing back out again!
Took a good few tries before it was finally in, I won't be doing that job again thank the Gods!

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:13 pm
by katy
So, how's the oil pressure now? As compared to what it was before you replaced the oil pressure relief valve?

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:52 pm
by irmscher
And they say size doesnt matter

as Roy says use the right tools for the job they were intended and if the nut is rounded off bin it .
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:01 pm
by Boomlander
katy wrote:So, how's the oil pressure now? As compared to what it was before you replaced the oil pressure relief valve?

Watch this space - Going out for a test run this Sunday

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:50 pm
by Boomlander
Success!!.... Found a marked increase in oil pressure - gauge reading up around 80psi at startup and even when fully warmed up still running at normal operating pressure.

Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:52 am
by katy
Re: Which Socket?
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:31 am
by Boomlander
By the way, the oil pressure relief valve now uses a ball bearing instead of the bullet type plunger and seems to make a better seal.
