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Tyres

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:16 pm
by KyleMorrisEvans92
Hello, apologies if this post is in the wrong section of the site, however I need new tyres. Can I go to the likes of Kwikfit and National Tyres and ask them if they can order some in that will fit original rims. If they can't supply them, would they fit ones that I bought.

Thanks folks

Re: Tyres

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:33 pm
by mike.perry
You will need a set of 145 or 155/80/14 radials. Do not bother with K/F etc, they will charge far to much, go to your local independent fitter, you will get a better deal and probably more personal service. If they cannot supply the tyres then phone around the Minor suppliers.
Pressures should be between 26-30 psi depending on preferences.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:29 pm
by KyleMorrisEvans92
Thank you that's useful information :)

Re: Tyres

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:37 pm
by bmcecosse
It's very easy to fit new tyres to the rims. The hard part is getting the old tyres off! You will need at least 30 psi in radials to make the car handle reasonably.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:42 pm
by lambrettalad
agreed I run my radials at 32psi ,spot on ride and handling :D

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:27 am
by C6Dave
bmcecosse wrote:It's very easy to fit new tyres to the rims. The hard part is getting the old tyres off! You will need at least 30 psi in radials to make the car handle reasonably.
Some of the cheapest 'Nankang' radials have a max psi of 32 so be aware before you order as others are rated to 40+ psi

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:54 am
by autolycus
You should also be aware that opinion is divided over the use of tubeless radials on standard Morris wheels. According to the old British Standard for wheel rim profiles, (BS AU 50), you can fit them with tubed or tubeless crossplies, but NOT with tubeless radials. I believe that the reason is that these "standard drop centre" rims don't have humps to retain the tyre in position in certain extreme circumstances.

Many may say they've used tubeless radials for years without problems, and I fitted a set of radials without tubes only last week, but it was a decision I made after my own assessment of the relative risks. I could have fitted tubes, in that the tyres concerned, Michelin Latitudes, specify "tubeless, may have tubes fitted", so at least they shouldn't wear through inner tubes like some designs of tubeless tyres might.

Remember that if you ask a tyre dealer to fit tubeless tyres, it would be perfectly reasonable for him to refuse, citing BS AU 50.

As Roy says, fitting tubeless tyres is not usually too difficult, but it helps to have a couple of proper tyre levers, a tub of bead paste, new tubeless valves of the correct stem diameter, the tool for pulling the valve through the rim, and an air line to provide the initial whoosh of air to seat the tyre. Tyres nowadays seem to carry a warning that you should do the initial inflation inside a safety cage - they can seat with a bang, and you certainly wouldn't want your fingers in the gap.

Kevin

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:01 am
by bmcecosse
It's actually better to fit the new tyres WITHOUT using levers......less risk of damaging the very important rim bead seal. Rubber mallet and tap tap tap - and yes - lashings of Swarfega (not washing up liquid!) do help.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:31 pm
by dalgrae
Recently went through this for my tyres in Bristol I tried Kwik Fit with the special 25% off and others I finished up at Brittania tyres who quoted £60 each for Bridgstones including fitting and also they had some fat valves just in case.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:44 pm
by mike.perry
I had overlooked the point about different size valve stems on the early wheels. Make sure that the fitters have the correct size BEFORE they rip the old ones out of the rims.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:16 pm
by Dean
Bargain

http://www.tyrebaydirect.com/7-Standard ... _x_25.html

Make sure yours are TR415 first though with 15.7mm holes.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:27 pm
by KyleMorrisEvans92
Thank you for all of your replies :) lost of useful information

Thanks Folks :)

Kyle :D

Re: Tyres

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:09 pm
by lambrettalad
remember tubed tyres deflate rapidly compared with tubeless,which can deflate very slowly or not at all with even a nail/screw in them.I've even gone to the considerable expense of putting tubeless on my vespa.

have owned 4 moggies always fitted radials at 32 psi never a problem

Re: Tyres

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:33 pm
by chesney
I have radials too - fine, except sometimes they can 'swish' or 'kick' when coming out of a very sharp bend, and getting them to stay at 30psi proves difficult - I think this is due to the fact that the rims are riveted to the centres. Although I haven't driven a moggie on crossply tyres so not a fair comparison, I have driven a vehicle with crossplys and they feel different. Although I do have a cross ply spare I keep meaning to swap at some point :D

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:24 am
by lambrettalad
hi your spare is it for the moggie with radials ? if so

NEVER MIX RADIALS AND CROSSPLY ON THE SAME AXEL :cry: very very bad move

plus it's not great practice to mix cross ply in pairs on different axels :roll:

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:20 pm
by chesney
Hence I am meaning to swap it at some point.. I didn't put the cross ply in, it was with the car and I have a few spare rims with radials on.. I just forget to swap them

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:33 pm
by bmcecosse
Well - it would be illegal to ever use that crossply - so get it swapped asap.

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:56 pm
by Dean

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:58 pm
by Dean

Re: Tyres

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:02 pm
by Dean