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Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:56 pm
by youngcamper
Hi all, the lowlight is in a need of a new set of boots all round and is currently fitted with some old and crusty crossplys, whats the general school of thought regarding which ones to go for ? I have radials on the daily but would crossplys be okay on the lowlight ? or is it best to stick to radials ?
Cheers,
Will
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:57 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
Depends what the lowlight will be used for? And how often..
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:00 pm
by youngcamper
Well its going to be no ball of fire, and realistically not as fast or as practical as my '67 so it'll probably be confined to short drives to the beach/ shows...
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:21 pm
by lambrettalad
others will disagree BUT radials are like riding in a roller whilst xply are like riding in a steam roller over bumps !!!!!
first and best change I did
pays y'a money takes ya choice
good luck

Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:35 am
by mike.perry
Unless you are showing the car in concours then definately radials, the cornering is far better. If you have no acceleration then don't slow down!
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:11 am
by bmcecosse
Avon used to make low profile 'Wide Safety' crossplies - and they were GREAT. But sadly no more, and current supply crossplies are both expensive and poor for roadholding.
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:25 am
by youngcamper
I've got a friend who can get my both radials and crossplys at cost price, interstingly theres only about a pound or two in it, so cost for me isn't an issue.
Cheers,
Will
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:05 am
by JOWETTJAVELIN
Crossplies look better on the car and give you the real driving experience...
I have Dunlop D75s (expensive) on my S.II and have not had any safety or braking issues with them. Sometimes the back end kicks out if I corner too fast, but then don't all Minors do that?
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:50 am
by youngcamper
JOWETTJAVELIN, I'm tempted to go for crossplys for the different driving experience too, though I'd like to hear some other people views on this too

Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:23 pm
by chickenjohn
youngcamper wrote:JOWETTJAVELIN, I'm tempted to go for crossplys for the different driving experience too, though I'd like to hear some other people views on this too

Go for the crossplys then! My Traveller had these when I first got him, I changed them to a set of radials when the crossplys wore out. The only difference I could notice was the car was more slidy in the wet. Great fun and quite controllable on wet roundabouts. Other than that no problem with the crossplys.
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:28 pm
by lambrettalad
corner too fast in a moggie

do you go round on two wheels?

or backwards

Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:47 pm
by Dean
Go for crossplys if there is no difference in price. You will probably need inner tubes though, if you haven't already got them.
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:36 pm
by youngcamper
Thanks chaps, Crossplys it is!

Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:48 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
Controversial, go for mgb wheels.. Much wider, better grip, cheaper tyres, better in every way...
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:37 pm
by moggiethouable
Alex'n'Ane wrote:Controversial, go for mgb wheels.. Much wider, better grip, cheaper tyres, better in every way...
Can you post a picture?
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:06 pm
by autolycus
Alex'n'Ane wrote:Controversial, go for mgb wheels.. Much wider, better grip, cheaper tyres, better in every way...
Fine for MGBs, but no use for Minors: 4.5" pcd, iirc, cf 4"
MG Midget wheels apparently fit, but do check the wheel nuts. Rostyle wheels need different wheel nuts to older Midget wheels, which in turn need different taper to some other BMC wheels of the period. Also check thread diameter and form.
As for crossplies versus radials: I've just come back from my first wedding with radials on the wedding car, and its steering is utterly transformed. OK, not a fair comparison going from old crossplies to new radials, but it doesn't tramline, it doesn't squeal on roundabouts, and I generally felt far more in control of the beast. Absolutely wonderful. I do sometimes wonder, though, if some of the accidents in Moggies that we read about, particularly where people have managed to overturn their car even on straight roads, are due to too much grip: with crossplies it's harder to generate enough lateral force to overturn them.
Kevin
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:34 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
autolycus wrote:
Fine for MGBs, but no use for Minors: 4.5" pcd, iirc, cf 4"
Nope, early minors, eg this lowlight, are 4.5" pcd.
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:29 pm
by autolycus
Right - sorry, I'm not familiar with the early cars. Same bolt or stud diameter and cone angle?
Kevin
Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:51 am
by MarkyB
I find crossplys tramline horribly, very disconcerting as the car seems to have a mind of it's own

Re: Crossplys or Radials
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:46 pm
by mike.perry
After 35 years and over 200,000 in my Series MM I would go for radials every time but increase the pressures to 26psi minimum.