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I'm am getting fed up with this rain... it's not just a five minute to two hour shower.. it's a seven day down pour, with two hours of glorious sun in the middle. To top it off, I'm never at home for that bit of sun!

So if you know who the culprit is, tell them to put the radio away and go back to squashing spiders!

The culprit could well be the government. Look up chemtrails, and you'll understand.

In fact, 'cloud seeding' as they like to call it was used by the Chinese government during the olympics to prevent it from raining during the games.

We have a drought at the beginning of the year, then what, we get record breaking rain showers??? Emmmmmm......

What a load of claptrap!

It's well known that the jetstream for some reason has moved southwards from it normal place about 4 years ago. The jetstream picks up billions of gallons of water from the Atlantic on it's way eastwards towards us.All the wet and widy weather that it used to deposit above the british Isles north of it out of our way becuse that's where the jet stream ended, is now deposited bang on top of us because the jetstream has moved southwards and now ends far south of Britsh Isles so we are now north of it so we get dumped on.

If you can search/watch a documentary film called "The Jet Stream" it explains all.

Bring back the "Brumberella"

drivewasher wrote:What a load of claptrap!

It's well known that the jetstream for some reason has moved southwards from it normal place about 4 years ago. The jetstream picks up billions of gallons of water from the Atlantic on it's way eastwards towards us.All the wet and widy weather that it used to deposit above the british Isles north of it out of our way becuse that's where the jet stream ended, is now deposited bang on top of us because the jetstream has moved southwards and now ends far south of Britsh Isles so we are now north of it so we get dumped on.

If you can search/watch a documentary film called "The Jet Stream" it explains all.

Actually it isnt claptrap. China DID admit to attempting to alter the weather during the olympics.

The sky was never as misty as it is nowadays, and it isnt due to the gulfstream. Same reports of chemtrails have occured all around the world.

Apparently one theory is that chemtrails cause more cloud cover, therefore reflecting the sunlight, so slows down the warming of the Earth.

Also, why is it now, myself included, have symptoms of allergies whenever these trails are present. I never got anything like hayfever etc when I was younger. Im not the only one as well. Plenty of other people have had the same problems, and allergies are increasing, along with cancer rates.

This just isnt normal.

You may think it is claptrap, but you honestly have no idea of the experiments that are being carried out right now. I watched this programme once, and it reckoned the US government has technology at least 50-100 years ahead of what we currently know.

It is also well known that the US has looked into ways of controlling the weather. This is fact. Imagine the ability to control the weather? It would be the ultimate weapon.

For heavens sake, the US government even looked into ways of controlling things with the mind during the Vietmese war, this also is fact.

The weather may not be due to chemtrails, I dont know, but dont dismiss claims as claptrap, when this is just a theory, and you honestly have no idea of the experiements going on behind our backs.

i'll be fine, i've got my tin-foil hat to protect me!

As far ah I was aware, rain, and snow for that matter only forms on a minute particle of dust. Thats what starts the droplet off, it keeps growing as moisture condesates on it untill it's so heavy it falls as rain or snow. Only this week all our vehicles have been covered in a fine sand dust probably picked up from deserts and dumped on us.
When I was a kid it was a regular event to get sand dusting from the Sahara desert.
One film I watched was about the Americans spraying dust into clouds to make it rain, but the amount of dust particles was vast and the results were far from promising.

So If dust promotes rain how can the Chineese prevent rain by chemtrails?
Whatever hapens in the world there will always be the conspristist's (you know what I mean lol) who for whatever reason try to put a different slant on things. Take 9/11 Twin Towers just you tube it it's pathetic.

drivewasher wrote:As far ah I was aware, rain, and snow for that matter only forms on a minute particle of dust. Thats what starts the droplet off, it keeps growing as moisture condesates on it untill it's so heavy it falls as rain or snow. Only this week all our vehicles have been covered in a fine sand dust probably picked up from deserts and dumped on us.
When I was a kid it was a regular event to get sand dusting from the Sahara desert.
One film I watched was about the Americans spraying dust into clouds to make it rain, but the amount of dust particles was vast and the results were far from promising.

So If dust promotes rain how can the Chineese prevent rain by chemtrails?

I know, some conspiracy theories are claptrap, however, there is actual evidence of chemtrails, and I beleive chemtrails are legit.

Im not sure how the chinese attempted it, apparently they sprayed ions of some sort into the atmosphere. Search for it on google, itll come up with results.

I know about sand etc from the Sahara, but chemtrails are something completely different. My Grandparents (not the type into conspiracy theories) also kinda beleive in chemtrails. I know there are more planes in the skies nowadays, but they can never remember the sky being so murky like it is nowadays.
Trails, genuine trails from aircraft vapourise after a couple of minutes. Chemtrails do not. In fact, chemtrails 'spread' outwards, and remain in the sky many hours after.
Aircraft trails become ice, therefore dissapear after a couple of minutes under the sun. Chemrails do not.

drivewasher wrote: It's well known that the jetstream for some reason has moved southwards from it normal place about 4 years ago.

So it isn't due to singing then?

I don't believe all this chemtrail stuff, too many people including big companies will need to be involved in order to keep it quiet. Even scientist have written the theory off, although as with most conspiracy theorists, they are part of the conspiracy themsleves.

I agree with Drivewasher the meandering jet stream, rather than it going straight seems to be the main culprit.

You can see the jet stream as red and yellow in this animation... apparently it normally goes above the uk from North America in a fairly straight line. Possibly down to someone singing after all!

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?acti ... ream;sess=

Dean wrote:

drivewasher wrote: It's well known that the jetstream for some reason has moved southwards from it normal place about 4 years ago.

So it isn't due to singing then?

I don't believe all this chemtrail stuff, too many people including big companies will need to be involved in order to keep it quiet. Even scientist have written the theory off, although as with most conspiracy theorists, they are part of the conspiracy themsleves.

I agree with Drivewasher the meandering jet stream, rather than it going straight seems to be the main culprit.

You can see the jet stream as red and yellow in this animation... apparently it normally goes above the uk from North America in a fairly straight line. Possibly down to someone singing after all!

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?acti ... ream;sess=

Scientists have written the theory off???

No, only a few select scientists that the government chooses. Its like the 'manmade climate change'. The government would have you believe that ALL scientists all believe that man is responsible. Not true. There are many scientists that disagree, its just they get 'forgotten' about.

Why would too many people be involved? All in would take is one company, (government controlled), to manufacture the stuff, and supply it throughout the world in fuel. How many people are involved in the secret service? You dont here of leaks that often really do you?

Look at the bigger picture. Its like the goal to a one world government. You may think this idea is deluded, and could never happen, but who thought we would get into the situation where 90% of laws are made by people in Brussels, by a 'European President' no one elected?

The elite will always come up with alternative theories. As for the chemtrails and the jetstream. Answer this. How come evidence of chemtrails have appeared all over the world? Theyre not all affected by the jetstream. And how is it that allergies and cancer rates are soaring throughout the world?

kingzdjc wrote:
Scientists have written the theory off???

No, only a few select scientists that the government chooses. Its like the 'manmade climate change'. The government would have you believe that ALL scientists all believe that man is responsible. Not true. There are many scientists that disagree, its just they get 'forgotten' about.

Like I said, to conspiracy theorists scientist denying it are part of the conspiracy.

Why would too many people be involved? All in would take is one company, (government controlled), to manufacture the stuff, and supply it throughout the world in fuel. How many people are involved in the secret service? You dont here of leaks that often really do you?

Logistically it would be impossible to put a chemical into fuel without anyone knowing what's going on. Do you think fuel doesn't get tested to ensure they comply with regulations.... so many would have to buy into the project to make it work, to keep it a secret is impossible.

Look at the bigger picture. Its like the goal to a one world government. You may think this idea is deluded, and could never happen, but who thought we would get into the situation where 90% of laws are made by people in Brussels, by a 'European President' no one elected?

The elite will always come up with alternative theories. As for the chemtrails and the jetstream. Answer this. How come evidence of chemtrails have appeared all over the world? Theyre not all affected by the jetstream.

Yes I think it is a bit deluded.

And how is it that allergies and cancer rates are soaring throughout the world?

Industrialisation on a global scale I believe is to blame for most cancers and allergies, all this toxic stuff we get thrown at us from cleaners, deodorants, dust, fumes etc can't be good.

Dean wrote:

kingzdjc wrote:
Scientists have written the theory off???

No, only a few select scientists that the government chooses. Its like the 'manmade climate change'. The government would have you believe that ALL scientists all believe that man is responsible. Not true. There are many scientists that disagree, its just they get 'forgotten' about.

Not true. So you think EVERY scientist agrees?

Why would too many people be involved? All in would take is one company, (government controlled), to manufacture the stuff, and supply it throughout the world in fuel. How many people are involved in the secret service? You dont here of leaks that often really do you?

And who tests the fuel? I dont know, for all we could know, big companies like BP, SHELL, could all be in it together.

Look at the bigger picture. Its like the goal to a one world government. You may think this idea is deluded, and could never happen, but who thought we would get into the situation where 90% of laws are made by people in Brussels, by a 'European President' no one elected?

The elite will always come up with alternative theories. As for the chemtrails and the jetstream. Answer this. How come evidence of chemtrails have appeared all over the world? Theyre not all affected by the jetstream.

Well it is a FACT, that we have 90% of laws made by the EU, and it has a European president NO ONE voted for. That is a FACT. Having one currency, the EURO, is just one step in globilisation.
Apparently, the reason we invaded Libya was not to do with the fact the Gaddafi was to kill his own people. It was the fact that he wanted to introduce the GOLD DINAR, a currency like that of ancient rome, a currency that is actual gold itself. America, Britain etc could not allow this, as it would mean existing world currency would become worthless. As it is in itself, paper bank notes etc, not actually worth anything.

Some conspiracy theories are claptrap, but others, if you take the time to read and discover them, actually make a lot of sense, certaintly more sense than what the government tell us a lot of the time.

And how is it that allergies and cancer rates are soaring throughout the world?

Industrialisation on a global scale I believe is to blame for most cancers and allergies, all this toxic stuff we get thrown at us from cleaners, deodorants, dust, fumes etc can't be good.

Yes, here I do agree with you. But I also think that the chemtrail conspiracy has something to do with it.


Of course, I dont know, maybe chemtrails exists or dont. But please dont believe everything the government tells you or would like you to believe.
After all, these are the same lot that told us Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, and did you know that Tony Blair and G.W Bush were once part of the same secret socitety? That also is a fact, and when questioned about it, at the time, Bush wouldnt comment.
Did you also know that David Cameron is related to royalty? In fact, if you look at it, many people we beleive we 'vote in' actually have connections with elite from the past. I find that odd, dont you?

drivewasher wrote:What a load of claptrap!

It's well known that the jetstream for some reason has moved southwards from it normal place about 4 years ago. The jetstream picks up billions of gallons of water from the Atlantic on it's way eastwards towards us.All the wet and widy weather that it used to deposit above the british Isles north of it out of our way becuse that's where the jet stream ended, is now deposited bang on top of us because the jetstream has moved southwards and now ends far south of Britsh Isles so we are now north of it so we get dumped on.

If you can search/watch a documentary film called "The Jet Stream" it explains all.

Spot on! And if you look up "Piers Corbyn" and "Climate Realists" you will learn of fascinating new research into weather and climate that explain all of this and more by changes in solar activity, particularly solar particles and magnetic interactions. It is the sun that predominantly rules our weather!

...ah yes, but the government could be controlling the sun

You may think ideas like these are false, but you'll see sooner or later.

It has long been known that the ultimate goal for the world governments has been the control of the weather. Contolling the weather would be the ultimate weapon, and this isnt claptrap.

Many of the experiments were carried out by the Nazis, then after the war, many of the scientists were granted the freedom to continue the experiments back in the US, where it is believed they are still carried out today.

Little known fact, but America would never have reached space if if werent for the Nazi scientists. In fact, the very first rockets sent into space were basically Nazi rockets, with the American flags on them. It was on a dicovery channel programme a while back.

If you look on google, you will find articles on weather controlling experiments. Apparently they send ions etc into the atmosphere or something quite technical. At the time, in 2008, China actualy admitted to attempting to control the weather so it wouldnt rain during the olympics.

Beijing Weather Modification Office is the department in China responsible for this. This isnt claptrap, its fact. They even created a snow storm in 2009. This is FACT.

Type it into google.

There are a great many people (not just the fella with the chemtrails) on this forum who have no understanding of the scientific method and basic logic. That is the only thing here, I think, that's the fault of the evil government.

To return to the original topic -- send some of that rain this way! The Ozarks have been in drought since last August.

If only we could! They announced yesterday that it was likely to last another 3/4 weeks. No hope of respraying my Traveller's roof in this

chrisryder wrote:...ah yes, but the government could be controlling the sun

I thought Rupert Murdoch controlled the sun........

I'll get me coat..........

Well, squashing poor old spiders is pretty cruel They are very useful - not at all pests!

JOWETTJAVELIN wrote:Well, squashing poor old spiders is pretty cruel They are very useful - not at all pests!

I agree, it was a pun. Apparently squashing spiders makes it rain.