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Trafficators

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:33 pm
by Johnno
Hi all,should the trafficators on my `52 MM stay out when I turn them on?
The operating lever is under the right hand dash.They work perfectly well but only stay out as long as the lever is turned.Am I missing something?
Cheers Guys,John.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:49 pm
by mike.perry
Sounds right to me - switch on - trafficator out. Switch off - trafficator in.
Four door cars have a timer switch

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:00 pm
by Johnno
Thanks again Mike,you are a mine of information.
Mine is a four door but as i say,they only stay on so long as the switch is physically held on.Let go of switch,they return.Do I need the timer?If so ,where is it located?

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:15 am
by mike.perry
The timer switch is a different design to the on off on switch which has a warning light and is mounted in a bracket under the dash. The timer switch is a barrel with a lever switch at the bottom, Moss Catalogue P.68. You may have the wrong switch for your car

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:52 am
by Johnno
Cheers mate,I`ll check that out.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:56 pm
by mike.perry
So what you are saying is that as soon as you release the indicator switch it springs back to the centre and cancels the trafficator?

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:33 pm
by Dean
My self cancelling switch went the same way, tried to fix it and made no difference. I replaced it with a cheap repro on/off version. Just keep forgetting to turn it off now.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:21 pm
by Johnno
Yes mike,that is exactly what happens.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:36 pm
by mike.perry
That I am afraid is the limit of my knowledge of self cancelling trafficator switches except that replacements are expensive, Moss list them at £79.95. They list the 2 door switch at £84.95 which is ridiculous as there is nothing to it.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:58 pm
by Johnno
Mike,I really appreciate your help and knowlege(and quick answers!)That is a lot of money for such a simple switch.

I`ll give this a lot of thought before deciding what to do next.
Thanks again,John.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:02 pm
by mike.perry
Try MMOC Club Spares when they reopen or Nat Rally auto jumble. More likely to get a 2 door type

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:34 am
by Johnno
Dean ,what type of switch was that?

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:58 pm
by dalgrae
I have been having the same problem on my series 2 and have posted in the mechanical section I managed to get some info re the adjustments that can be made also the person at Holden Products was very helpfull and I bought some parts to enable me to try and fix my unit Rather than a complete new unit

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:37 pm
by tomas.geoghegan
Hi My Trafficators on my 4 door are not automatic and need to be switched off manually too is"nt that correct though???
But surely not worth spending time and lots of money on.But up to you if its niggling you !!
Tomas

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:01 pm
by Boomlander
Johnno wrote:Dean ,what type of switch was that?
The manual trafficator switch on Jethro being mostly Bakelite broke up while refitting so I am using a temporary switch I bought from TomRoy for £28.
It is a green plastic type which illuminates when activating the trafficators and works perfectly well, although it does not feel as positive and heavyweight as the original unit.
I have since bought a white Lucas unit which I got cheaply on Ebay and it matches the original unit perfectly.
Just have to find the time to swap the switches over and I'll then keep the green one as a spare. :D

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:12 pm
by Johnno
Interesting stuff guys.Thanks for your interest and input.
Tomas,the problem I have is that the trafficators only stay out with the switch held in place!
Is this good for the mot?
Thanks Dean.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:48 am
by Johnno
Johnno wrote:Interesting stuff guys.Thanks for your interest and input.
Tomas,the problem I have is that the trafficators only stay out with the switch held in place!
Is this good for the mot?
Thanks Dean.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:17 am
by tomas.geoghegan
Hi Dean
On mine i have later flashing indicators as well as working Trafficators. Have you? (if only Trafficators for MOT i would say yes)
If your morris has just got the original Trafficators
I would find it a hassle to have to hold the switch by hand.
And you do need two hands free to change gear etc.
I just have to switch on then switch off.
Hope this helps
Tomas

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:02 pm
by JOWETTJAVELIN
The four door switch was on a time delay which fails over time. The two door switch must be manually cancelled. I am unsure of the operation of the four door switch, but would hazard a guess at it being a simple friction mechanism possibly combined with a spring which keeps it out for a length of time.

If I were you I would be stripping the original down taking the utmost care not to damage the fragile plastic and go about overhauling it.

Good luck.

Re: Trafficators

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:00 am
by mike.perry
I can't see why the switch was fitted to four door Minors, and if it was some sort of progress, why was it not fitted to 2 doors?