Morris Minor Owners Club

hi all
whats the tecnical terms for these?
thanks

OK, I'll rise to this curious bait.

As defined by the Veteran Car Club:

Veteran - Vehicles built up-to and including December 1904

Edwardian - Vehicles built from January 1905 and up-to and including December 1918

As defined by the VSCC

Vintage - Vehicles built before 1931

As defined by me, since no two people will agree on this one:

Classic - Any (old) car whose owner chooses it because of its particular design features, as against a car chosen because the owner can't or won't pay more to get a newer one.

Antique: I've no idea. Ask an American.

Kevin

thanks for your thoughts but does annyone know the correct defenitions?

What exactly are you referring to - cars or something else? There isn't a 'correct' definition for antique, classic or vintage - they aren't 'technical terms'.Try a Google search - you'll get loads of different answers.

'Antique' is commonly used to describe an item (not car) over 100 years old.

As already stated, a 'vintage' vehicle is usually considered to be one built prior to 1931. But if you're referring to clothes, judging by e-bay listings anything more than 6 months old seems to be vintage!

As for 'classic', as Kevin has already said it's entirely a matter of personal opinion. Depending on your point of view, it could refer to any car over 25 years old, or any car which is old and out of production, or something entirely different.

Why do you need to know the 'correct' definitions?

Thanks
I don't need to know it just came up in a discussion I was having and couldnt find it on google

I am fascinated to hear that your extensive research was sufficient to establish that my "defenitions" (sic) were not correct, but that you were not able to find ones that are. I assume that "correct" in this context may mean ones that supported your views.

Kevin

Looks correct to me!
Maybe there's also 'modern classic' being a car that you could show at a classic car show, but wouldn't get a second glance when parked in the supermarket car park....
(Own definition, not based on any facts but generally anything 1980 onwards...)

Historic according to the DVLA is anything which qualifies for a free tax disc, ie before 1/1/1973.
Definition according to the FBHVC. Historic vehicle.- A vehicle made more than 30 years ago, such vehicles have usually retired from the purpose for which they were built and are now being preserved for posterity.
Classic was quoted as anything that has survived for more than 25 years!

Hello Kevin,

in addition to your list, I understand that 'Vintage' is the era between 1913 (or so) and as you said 1931, so there seems to ba an overlap between Edwardian and Vintage.
It may interest some of you that the term 'Vintage car' came about because motoists of the thirties felt that the modern car (with few exceptions) were not as well made or had the character of the earlier cars so the term was borrowed from the wine industry meaning a good year, i.e in their eyes cars worth driving unlike the modern rubbish (Post 1931 or so I'm referring to.) Does that sound familiar? Somehow the term vintage has become distorted and anything old is now considered vintage whatever the merits of the article?

Alec

Alec: yes, notice how I carefully avoided two things in my first reply: putting a start date on "vintage", and mentioning PVT, (Post Vintage Thoroughbred), which was the way that the VSCC got round their arbitrary rule of, for example, 1930 Rolls-Royce 20/25 good, 1931 20/25, bad, while allowing them to say 1932 Hillman = horrible.

As for defining "classic": I don't think that age alone can be the decider - hence my attempt at a definition that doesn't include mention of it. YMMV.

Kevin

I recon i'm vintage but also so a classic ,possibly unique,but hopefully loved and looked after like my moggie