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Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:06 pm
by ZimboMM1959
I am refurbishing my back brakes and notice that a Repair Kit includes the boot, cup and what looks like an "o" Ring. When I pulled mine apart I did not come across an "O" Ring. Can someone tell me where this goes.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:30 pm
by taupe
Hi

On some cylinders there is an O ring fitted in a groove in the piston, I'm not sure but this may not be present with pattern cylinders.

Taupe

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:43 pm
by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH
There are sort of 2 pistons on the back brake cylinders, the one the brake shoe adjuster sits on that also works the handbrake and a further piston above that also has a the o ring your looking for. Its usually this one that seizes solid and can be difficult to free up. Was looking for a pic online to show you but cant find the right one!

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:32 pm
by ZimboMM1959
Thanks. On this first image. I have an arrow pointing to where I assume that a "o" ring can fit.

What confuses me is the overlap with the gap where the handbrake lever would fit (second image). To me, one interferes with the other. :-?[frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame]

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:17 pm
by mike.perry
I can't be bothered with stripping down cylinders, I am going to fit new cylinders when they arrive, a lot less hassle

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:31 pm
by kennatt
neither can I ,rear patern one about £13 not worth the bother , for me anyway.Mind original lockheed are about £35 so that could persuade me ,if I was bothered about originality.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:26 pm
by ZimboMM1959
Unfortunately living in Zimbabwe means that it is more of a bother ordering and posting than stripping and refurbishing, especially as post is so unreliable.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:23 pm
by bmcecosse
I don't remember ever seeing an O ring on there - can't see how it would work.......

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 8:37 am
by MarkyB
Isn't there a slot for it on the top part of the piston, the part that the adjuster rests on?
It acts as a dust seal when the cylinder is at rest.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 9:53 am
by bmcecosse
Ahh yes - very thin O ring -certainly on the front cylinders but honestly can't remember on the rears.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 5:45 am
by ZimboMM1959
I cannot see how it would work either, which is why I am confused that an o-ring is included in the brake service kit. I can see where an o-ring will fit on the piston, but to me it looks like it will get in the way of the handbrake mechanism.

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:50 am
by bmcecosse
Sure you have a rear kit - not a front kit??

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:15 pm
by ZimboMM1959
Maybe I am on the wrong track. The link below goes to Rear Brake Cylinder Rerpair Kit at the ESM Morris Minor Spares website. There is the boot, the rubber plunger and then what looks like an 0-ring. I have not odered the kit as I already have the plunger and can get get an o-ring here (if that is what it is), so have just ordered the boot. What I do not know is if the third part is in fact an o-ring and if so, where does it go?? :-?

http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 780593e800

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:22 pm
by bmcecosse
I really can't tell. I CAN tell you that the 'boot' supplied by some these days is hard/non-flexible, v difficult to put on, and easily jumps back off........... :cry:

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 7:15 pm
by John159
ZimboMM1959 wrote:Unfortunately living in Zimbabwe means that it is more of a bother ordering and posting than stripping and refurbishing, especially as post is so unreliable.
I am very curious to know how one might go about freeing up a ceased rear brake cylinder. I have two of them and have the time and patience - if that's what's needed!!!- along with applying pressure to it or whatever. It would be a pity to discard them if they are restorable

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 9:16 pm
by Trickydicky
If you have a compressor then you could try and blow air into the cylinder to pop out the piston. I did make a simple honing tool from dowel and a some fine wet and dry with oil on it to polish the cylinder bore in my pillar drill, it worked ok but if the seal kits don't have the correct seals I don't think it's worth it :-?

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 11:01 am
by XWL61
OP hasn't visited forum since 2011.......perhaps Mugabe has pulled the plug on the internet :(

Andy

Re: Back Brake Cylinder Kit

Posted: Sat May 30, 2015 6:05 pm
by IslipMinor
The rear cylinder came in 2 sizes - 7/8" diameter originally fitted to Series II and 948 engine cars, and 3/4" diameter fitted to 1098 cars.

I wonder how many 948's still have 7/8" rear cylinders now?