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Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:03 am
by Tea
A couple weeks back our 1962 Morris Minor 1000 2-door Saloon started having trouble with the front brakes especially when braking at slow speeds. We took Dorris to a friend to take a look at her for us. After taking the wheels off he said that he doesn't think the brakes are original and we're stumped as to which vehicle they're from. One of the front brake cylinders are jammed and needing replaced but as we aren't sure of where the brakes are from we can't replace them.

When we first got the car it had lights from a VW Beetle, wheels and front bumper from a Mini so thought they could possibly be from either. Looking through online photos it looks like they're not from these cars and so at a loose end once again...
We only have photos once the brake drum had been removed. Probably an idea to have a photo of the drum too?

Has anyone got any suggestions?

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Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:05 am
by bmcecosse
Morris Minor brake! Neither of these cylinders appears to be 'stuck'.

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:14 am
by Tea
The cylinder in the top photo is the one that seems to be stuck. Unless there is something else that could be causing the cylinder to not work?

And it is definitely a Morris Minor brake? That'll make it easy to find brake parts :) My partner and I are only just learning about the workings of Morris Minors.

Many thanks

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:25 am
by bmcecosse
It doesn't look to be significantly 'stuck' - they are usually slightly open when stuck. Why do you think it's stuck?

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:36 am
by Tea
We put a metal bar above and below both brake shoes and when applying the brake that cyclinder wouldn't move. All the other cyclinders on the other brakes were working fine.

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:31 am
by mike.perry
Put a clamp on the working cylinder then push the brake pedal whilst somebody watches the other cylinder. If necessary a hard push on the brake pedal should free it

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:48 am
by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH
Yes they look like normal minor cylinders, compare them with this.

http://www.morrisminorspares.net/shop_item.php?ID=1512

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:22 pm
by Tea
We tried to free it that way the other day but, sadly it still wouldn't free it. I think we'll buy some new brake cylinders off of bull motif :)

Thanks for the help :)

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:33 pm
by mike.perry
Did you take the brake shoes off first? A hard shove on the pedal usually pops the piston out

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:37 pm
by Tea
We didn't take the brake shoes off. Would that be the way to try it?

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:44 pm
by bmcecosse
Can't see it making a difference - but you may need to STAND on the pedal to get the cylinder to move. Of course - it may then leak....... So perhaps a new cylinder will be best for you - not expensive - but best to get the 'genuine' and not the repro front cylinders........

Re: Brake identification

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:33 pm
by Tea
Just ordered the front brake cylinders. At least that way they should work for the next x number of years.

Many thanks for the help and advice :)