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Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:26 pm
by SUE482
Hi if I fit new trunions to the existing swivel pin there is some "rocking" before any grease is applied, how much play is acceptable or should I just replace the swivel pin as well as the trunions.

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:30 pm
by bmcecosse
There would have to be NO 'rocking' - really is best to fit complete new King Pin assemblies - then you know they are NEW and with regular greasing they will last 'for ever'. However - I do appreciate money can be tight - and so obviously new trunnions should take up half the wear that was there before but don't expect/think that grease can take up any wear.... It's up to your judgement.....

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:37 pm
by mike.perry
For safety I would advise fitting the complete assembly but if you pack the trunnions with grease before fitting them and there is no movement you should be ok. Keep a check on them and give them a squirt of grease evey time you take the wheel off

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 pm
by bmcecosse
Problem is - that the new trunnion may feel 'ok' at first - but very quickly wears away since it may only have 'line' contact with the remains of the thread on the King Pin - and in no time at all - the free play is just as bad as ever....... :cry:

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:42 pm
by SUE482
Hi thanks for the advice, I am going to do what I guessed was necessary, but its nice to get a second opinion.
Many thanks.

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:44 pm
by bmcecosse
Put polyurethane bushes in the top link (to the damper) - these make a HUGE improvement.

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:27 am
by kennatt
just look at the edge of the threads on the pins if they are sharp(They should be flat)then the pin has had it and should be replaced they will quickly wear out new trunnnion

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:34 pm
by SUE482
Hi thanks for all the advice, I'm replacing the pins. One other piece of advice which would be welcome, replacing bushes with polyurethane versions, is it worth replacing all or just a selection?

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:06 pm
by bmcecosse
It is worth doing 'all' (except the rear half of the front tie-bar mount which is best kept as rubber) - but the top trunnion bushes make a huge improvement, and you will be in that area anyway - hence my suggestion you change them now. The others can be done over time - they all help, but these top trunnion bushes give by far the biggest improvement.

Re: Swivel Pin Wear

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:09 pm
by mike.perry
Not worth stripping the suspension down just to fit poly bushes, replace them as you replace trunnions or the rubbers wear out.
I am stilll working my way through a tin of rubbers on my rear shackles