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New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:23 pm
by forbesg
Hi Guys,
Presently rebuilding my 1098 gearbox. When I went to replace the 3rd motion bearing (22A465), I noticed it came with a shim. The original does not (obviously an adaptation since manufacture), it would seem logical that the shim fits between the bearing and 1st gear. Though I better double check, before going to far.

Regards

Grant.

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:16 pm
by bmcecosse
To be clear - is it the new /replacement bearing that has arrived with a shim ? Is the new bearing otherwise identical to the old one - or is it slightly thinner?

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:02 am
by forbesg
Hi BMC,
Yes the new bearing has the shim. The cone appears to be difference between old & new.

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:45 am
by bmcecosse
Cone ? Measure the width (thickness) of each bearing - are they identical?

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:14 pm
by les
The third motion bearing is not as original spec, by that I mean the inner race is not as wide, therefore shims are provided to overcome this. The bearing should have a circlip fitted when supplied. The inner bearing face opposite to the circlip should have a 0.040'' shim placed against it and the inner bearing face on the circlip side should have shims equal to 0.055'' this measurement is different because the circlip in the outer race is machined nearer to the edge than the original (the bearing goes in slightly further thus requiring thicker shimming to offset this. All this is the case for bearing number 22a465 from Moss Europe.

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Useful information there - do MOSS advise this when they supply the bearing ?

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:56 pm
by les
Yes , all credit to them, they supply a sheet of paper with the appropriate measurements and shims. They didn't explain the circlip difference, but I suppose that was not needed.I found a place that said the original bearing was available but rather expensive. The original was a ransome and marles.

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 2:02 am
by forbesg
Thanks for that Lads, brilliant :D .
Wasn't aware of the changes to the the circlip groove.
FYI mine didn't come with a circlip (I used the original) nor documentation, I imported mine from an well known English minor parts supplier.
However now that I'm aware of such things, I will check it out. Once again thanks.

Re: New 3rd Motion Bearing (GBox)

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:49 pm
by les
I'm wondering why you only got one shim with your bearing, I think mine came with 4.