DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

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Dean
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DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

Post by Dean »

So the question on here is asked time and time again "How many Minors are still going".

I've kindly taken this off "theminiforum", it's questionable whether it is accurate or not but basically it's saying there are 19,000 Moggies surviving from an official DVLA capacity.

I think there must be more as with 20,000+ club member, that makes at least 20,000 cars?

Anyway, makes interesting reading, enjoy.

beware these are 10meg exel documents so will blast your RAM to pieces on your PC. :D

TAXED:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/da ... eh0120.xls

SORN:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/da ... eh0121.xls
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Re: DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

Post by mike.perry »

The MMOC membership is unfortunately nearer to 12000 although several prominent members do have a collection of Minors which usually include long term restoration projects.
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Post by chickenjohn »

Not all minor ownerS ARE NATIONAL club members either!

I know of several in Kent who are keen Minor owners and either just member of local branches or not members of any club at all.
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Re: DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

Post by Dean »

Does 19,000 sound a realistic number though? This number may include a few pre war Minors but not Austin or Morris vans. There must be a lot of projects still on the go prior to SORN.. but 19,000 either way (14,000 road worthy, 5,000 off road) really doesn't sound a lot. :(
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Re: DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

Post by dbys2 »

Remember that the lists above also do not include vehicles like mine that are currently in existance but not registered with the DVLA...

There must be a good few hundred in the same state as mine.

You will also get the ones that are no longer anything more than a set of documents hidden in peoples houses, being kept back for any number of reasons.

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Post by LouiseM »

A club member obtained data from the DVLA and conducted a comprehensive analysis, which was published in Minor Matters last year, detailing how many Minors of each body type were on DVLA records. His figures showed that there were approx. 27,000 Minors either taxed or on SORN during 2009/10. Obviously these figures don't include those that aren't on the DVLA database or are registered abroad.


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Re: DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

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Dean wrote:Does 19,000 sound a realistic number though? This number may include a few pre war Minors but not Austin or Morris vans. There must be a lot of projects still on the go prior to SORN.. but 19,000 either way (14,000 road worthy, 5,000 off road) really doesn't sound a lot. :(
I expect that is about right!

That is why we cannot afford to be breaking restorable cars any more! That is why I am saving Madeleine the 4-door.
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Re: DVLA download of all Taxed and SORNed vehicles

Post by lockupchap »

It may not sound a high proportion, but at 3% or so of the Minors originally registered in GB (not UK - DVLA doesn't include Northern Ireland), it's a remarkably high survival rate.

Another classic car club recently researched and compared survival rates of classic and historic cars, after approaching a number of other owners' clubs. Exotic models have generally fared well, such as the Triumph Stag at just over 50% and a few Jensens with a rate of between 25% and 50%. Top survivor was the marvellous Gordon-Keeble (I had a lift in one last year - memorable in the extreme) with a 90% survival rate.

More typical is a survival rate of about 0.1% for a number of run-of-the-mill British models from the 1960s and 1970s. On the other hand, classic Rovers have fared well, although even the P4 at around 2.6% has not survived as well as the Minor. Amongst the Minor's BMC stablemates, the ironic appeal of the Allegro (OK, not quite contemporaneous) has led to a relatively high 0.2%, whilst a similar (and surprisingly high) similar percentage of the rot-prone ADO16 100/1300s are still alive. The Marina's figure is about 0.05%.

No results were available for common (in their day) French or Italian models of the Minor's era, but the numbers are expected to be nominal. When did anyone last see a Renault 8 or 10, or a Citroen Ami?

I wonder how the Minor's survival compares to that of the MGB or Beetle?
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