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Tele-dampers
Posted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:44 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
So does anyone have any experience of these? Front or rear. Tbh i know i should be getting the jlh kit, however budget is going to be tight after fitting the new little zetec, and although the engine is lighter than the a-series i still feel the front and rear could do with some better suspension/ damping to handle the extra power and speed. I am looking at probably this kit
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 5cde5b94a0 for the front and similar rear. I know the stories about the boot floor cracking already...
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:32 am
by charlie_morris_minor
I fitted the kit to the saloon i modified 10 years ago and was very happy and i am doing the same mods this time around as i was very happy with the way the car handled.
However there are a significant number of cars out there with this modification done, it might be worth trying to take a drive in one to make your own mind up.
by the way i also lowered and fitted anti roll bars at the same time I can not comment on doing just this mod on its own.
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:11 pm
by plastic_orange
If budget is tight, drain and refill dampers with heavier weight oil - cost about a fiver
I would never use spax again unless they were mounted absolutely vertically, and remember, you get what you pay for, so don't do the job twice.
These front kits use mini shocks I believe - not the best designed system.
Pete
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:33 pm
by ratrodmog
Is it just me or do these shocks look really small? I'm thinking Mini shocks which means rubbish amounts of travel and worse handeling than before. I am going with this kit for the front
http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewP ... exID=17170 as it uses much longer shocks and a better mounting system.
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:05 pm
by Alex'n'Ane
It does look a superior system, however if i was spending £230 i would spend it on the Jlh kit for exactly the same price, would just feel more confident on the design and if your happy to weld i feel would be mounted better too.
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:07 am
by MColes
That's the setup I've got on my car, I've no complaints
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:06 pm
by plastic_orange
I'd the same spax kit on my Minor in 1974 (front and rear). The kit came from a company called RBT equiped and it cost under £20
. It did work very well, but the rear shocks didn't last (at an angle), plus the mounting point wasn't great. There are now better engineered alternatives, so just buy the best and fit once. Jonathon at JLH will help you out
.
Pete
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:26 pm
by welshrat
Have had the Moss type set up on mine for about 10 years, again no complaints. I think mine were from the MM centre Bath and were an expensive item then, however no problems and gas spax units are still doing the job.
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:49 pm
by youngcamper
plastic_orange wrote:If budget is tight, drain and refill dampers with heavier weight oil - cost about a fiver
I would never use spax again unless they were mounted absolutely vertically, and remember, you get what you pay for, so don't do the job twice.
These front kits use mini shocks I believe - not the best designed system.
Pete
I'd be interested in putting some thicker oil in, does it have any adverse effects ?
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:42 pm
by ratrodmog
youngcamper wrote:plastic_orange wrote:If budget is tight, drain and refill dampers with heavier weight oil - cost about a fiver
I would never use spax again unless they were mounted absolutely vertically, and remember, you get what you pay for, so don't do the job twice.
These front kits use mini shocks I believe - not the best designed system.
Pete
I'd be interested in putting some thicker oil in, does it have any adverse effects ?
Pete, do you think the Moss Spax kit uses Mini sized units as they look a fair bit longer?
Youngcamper, using a thicker oil is fine but make sure all of your suspension bushes are good etc. It will make the ride a bit firmer which is what you want.
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:54 pm
by youngcamper
Ahh cheers, I didn't want to destroy my dampers. What grade oil should I use ?
Cheers,
Will
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:00 am
by plastic_orange
ratrodmog wrote:youngcamper wrote:plastic_orange wrote:If budget is tight, drain and refill dampers with heavier weight oil - cost about a fiver
I would never use spax again unless they were mounted absolutely vertically, and remember, you get what you pay for, so don't do the job twice.
These front kits use mini shocks I believe - not the best designed system.
Pete
I'd be interested in putting some thicker oil in, does it have any adverse effects ?
Pete, do you think the Moss Spax kit uses Mini sized units as they look a fair bit longer?
Youngcamper, using a thicker oil is fine but make sure all of your suspension bushes are good etc. It will make the ride a bit firmer which is what you want.
The Moss kit which I'm sure is the spax kit that has been sold since time began
has bigger shocks than the mini ones.
Pete
Re: Tele-dampers
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 10:09 am
by plastic_orange
youngcamper wrote:Ahh cheers, I didn't want to destroy my dampers. What grade oil should I use ?
Cheers,
Will
I've used engine oil in the past (20/50 which worked fine), but on reflection it would be better to use a motorcycle fork oil in a 30 weight - slightly more expensive, but may be kinder to the damper. here's a link to a source:
http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcy ... nt_cat/809
Try and flush out as much of the oil (move lever to pump it out) as possible before refilling. Don't lose any springs etc which may fly out when you remove the drain plug. When refilling, again move lever to transfer oil throughout the damper (bounce car
)
Pete