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patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:37 pm
by davidpidge
I was just looking at brakes on ESM. There's obviously a massive difference in cost between pattern and genuine rear brake cylinders. Is it worth the extra for the genuine or do the pattern parts work ok? Advice as always, must appreciated.
Regards
David

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:05 pm
by LouiseM
For something safety critical I would always go for good quality parts.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:28 pm
by Quendil
I have used both over the years but found that pattern parts don't last as long

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:31 pm
by simmitc
Ditto. Tried both and now insist on genuine, not pattern.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:31 pm
by Dean
I renewed every single part of my braking system before putting her back on the road, pipes, master cylinder, brake cylinders the lot. I paid extra for an original master cylinder from Bull Motif, and used pattern brake cylinders. The only issues I had with the pattern stuff is the thread quality and the fact some still had cast swarf inside. I got the dodgy thread one replaced, but it's a bit annoying because you only find out these things once they are fitted. Twelve month on.. everything is still working great.

I can't comment on the genuine wheel cylinders, but agree with Louise, personally if you can afford the genuine, then go for them. Whose to say though they don't suffer from the same problems.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by bmcecosse
I understand the REAR pattern cylinders are every bit as good as originals, but some have had problems with front patterns - which have an O ring style seal rather than the original cup seal.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:18 pm
by mikeysmorris
been there done that :o :( go for the genuine parts when you can get them,
regards Mikey.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:39 pm
by DAVIDMCCULLOUGH
Master cylinder and rear cylinders are ok as they are made to the spec as original but I would avoid the pattern fronts as they usually dont last too well and then have to be thrown away as you cant get seals for them.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:01 pm
by simmitc
Every pattern rear that I have tried has been slightly the wrong size to fit through the hole in the back plate, requiring careful use of a file - and that's before questionable thread and a greater tendancy to seize. Only speaking from experience, theyre may be some good ones out there.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:45 pm
by chickenjohn
Yes, go for original Lockheed- they fit well, work well and should they leak before they corrode, new rubbers are available. The same applies to Master cylinders as well. Brakes and tyres are not an area to cut costs on, IMHO!

Re: patten parts

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:02 pm
by davidpidge
Thanks everyone. The difference in price will be £40 extra for both rear master cylinders so it's probably worth it to save the hassle. And as you say, brakes......not an area to cheap out on.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:24 pm
by moggydriver62
Have you thought about wolsely front brakes? :o :roll: :roll:

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:26 pm
by davidpidge
moggydriver62 wrote:Have you thought about wolsely front brakes? :o :roll: :roll:
Not really. I'd like to upgrade to disc brakes though. For safetys sake. And full height front seats with headrests. Would be much safer.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:50 pm
by bmcecosse
W brakes are MUCH more 'affordable' and very much easier to fit than discs......... High back seats are indeed a good safety feature - if securely fitted of course.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 10:32 am
by davidpidge
Whats involved in a Wolseley upgrade? Is it just bigger drums/shoes? Do the master cylinders need changing?

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:11 pm
by bmcecosse
Unbolt the old backplates and bolt on the new - very very simple, and no master cylinder mods needed - and no servo......

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 6:51 pm
by davidpidge
Ill watch out for some. Sounds like it'd be worth a go.

Re: patten parts

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 7:36 pm
by bmcecosse
Ahh - now that's the hard part - finding a set.......