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Specification of NEW parts
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:48 am
by simmitc
I've noticed that a lot of newly manufactured parts do not match the spec of the originals. For example, radiators without drain plugs. The excuse is that the plug would add £9 to the cost, but if you're already forking out for a new one, would that make any difference? I'd rather pay a little bit extra for both originality and ease of service. What about others? There is no commercial interest in this post, it's just for my interest.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:13 am
by rayofleamington
I don't use the radiator drain plug...
But for other parts - original is the only way. There was a trend to cut cost with things like handbrake cables with no grease nipple, propshaft UJ's with no grease nipple, chrome that was pitted after 12 months etc...
A lot of this came about as the suppliers were competing between each other for business and people would phone around to get the lowest price. That trend seems to have changed as a lot of people now suffer with these low quality parts, therefore many people now look around for good quality instead of cheapest price.
Some suppliers now offer a choice - cheap parts or good parts. This way they cater for both sets of customers.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:16 am
by Cam
I don't use the radiator drain plug...
Me neither, I just pull the bottom radiator hose off.
If you have a concours car then yes, I would buy one with a drain plug, but a scruffy/personalised daily driver I would not bother with one.
To have the choice of the two would be nice though!
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:17 am
by Gareth
You can have cheap, quality, or quick.
If it's cheap and quality, it won't be quick
If it's cheap and quick, it won't be quality
If it's quality and quick, it's not going to be cheap
If it's supposed to be all three.... don't pay until you've seen the finished result and probably spoken to trading standards!
Never mind the plug - what about the little brass tap at the base of the radiator... where did that go to??
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:47 am
by 57traveller
If originality is an owners desire then I suppose the extra £9 may be worthwhile for them. But £9 seems a bit too much for a 75p plug/valve!
The radiator on my Traveller does has a drain cock a doodle diddley but it needs a spare half day before the water empties out. I can pee faster

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:50 am
by 57traveller
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:03 pm
by rayofleamington
stop cock a doodle diddley ?
nah - it wasn't 'fitted' that it objected to ;-)
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:04 pm
by Gareth
I believe you mean a drain 'plug' or 'tap'... I can't think why it has an aversion to the type of valve to which you refer...

We're so nicely behaved most of the time, I reckon the profanity-filter does things like that just to show it's still there... hehehe
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 12:13 pm
by 57traveller
Well fitted has been removed and cock a doodle diddley remains. A mystery. But it looks like the male bird is the offending word and hasn't been filtered out.

Not to worry, I think it's quite funny.
And it's a brave person who tries to remove the plug if it's not been touched for some time.
Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:31 pm
by Chris Morley
cock a doodle diddley a doodle diddley ?
I didn't know Ned Flanders had joined the board?
Oakily Dokily ! My drain plug still works as it should....

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 7:36 pm
by twinkle
To keep the old girl as original as possible I had her rad re-cord,Thus keeping all the Rad as was, But must admit its a devil when you have to pay for something now that came as standard when the car was new ( DRAIN PLUG or TAP) -A sign of the times we live in -me thinks. Bill & Twinkle the Traveller .

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 8:35 pm
by Theo
got the tap for free (used, had to screw it out myself) when i bought some other spares

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:31 pm
by nick_h
Never mind the plug - what about the little brass tap at the base of the radiator... where did that go to??
Gareth, You have to have a CLASSIC Minor to get one of those. In fact you get two - one on the engine block too. I've recently unseized mine. It's so good that I keep playing with it to make sure it's still working! Must stop now the anti-freeze is in.
Nick
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 12:46 pm
by simmitc
The little brass winged drain tap is what this is all about. It has a proper spout, and if you put a plastic / rubber tube on it, then you can drain the radiator, including that precious anti-freeze into a container for either re-use or disposal. Clean and simple, better than the later plastic screw-in bung, and much much better than removing the bottom hose and making a mess all over everywhere. Particularly useful if removing & refitting the head. I suppose a similar poll could be run on the drain plug that has disappeared from new petrol tanks....
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:04 pm
by 57traveller
sorry, error.
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:06 pm
by Cam
exactly