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I have removed the outer rear wing of my daughters's traveller after spoting some holes on the inner rear wing.

Could someone tell me where these parts fit please:

1) Closing Panel-Side To Floor R/H (Traveller)
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... ca68056fe5

2) Floor Edge Panel (Inner Rear) R/H
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... ca68056fe5

Also has anyone fitted one of these please if so how did you go about it (type of weld joint etc)
Rear Arch Repair flange R/H (Traveller)
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... ca68056fe5

I am going through the MMOC site searching for references but none so far, any assistance welcome. Thanks, John

Hi

1 Is screwed to the bottom of the timber just behind the B post. Its just a dirt cover panel and is not welded.

2 Fits next to (and outboard from)the rear spring front mounting. It will need seam welding where it joins the floor panel and plug, spot or seam welding to the rear of the sill boxing panel and boxing extension panel.

The rear arch panel was originally spotwelded to the rear inner wing but you will need the timber off to do that so it can be plug or seam welded to the inner wing panel from under the car assuming there not to much rot there also!

Thanks for reply - is it possible to remove the timber one side at a time? The right side is much worse than the left, many thanks.

Yes - you can - but it's quite a job!

Is it worse than removing all of the rear? If not how do I go about it. Part that concerns me the most in terms of dismantling is the roof covering and guttering.

You can lift the entire wood section, including roof and guttering away as one unit - it was built separately and lifted onto the rest of the car in the factory. The worst part of the job will probably be undoing the bolts at the bottom of the rear pillar and all the screws from the inner wing into the wood frame - remove the trim to find the screws. There are bolts from the timber into the B post - three visible from outside, a couple more hidden behind the vertical channel into which the side window closes. If you're lucky then they come out OK, if you're unlucky then the captive nuts will need replacing, which means opening the B post and then welding closed when the repair is complete. You'll need to partially remove both front and rear head-linings to gain access to the bolts that hold the two halves of the roof together (passing through the rubber seal in the roof). The Traveller is a fantastic vehicle, but regretfully there is no easy way to repair those panels; you just decide which way you prefer.

Yes, it is possible.

You remove it by undoing the three cross head bolts that fit it to the B post on the outside and two in the felt channel, undoing all the screws that screw the wheelarch wood to the steel wheel arch (undo from inside the car) there is a coach bolt that holds the bottom of the corner pillar to the steel body, and also three screws holding the splash panel to the lower step.

By the way, I have to disagree with Taupe, much as I don't like doing so. The splash panels were original (and very rusty) on my car and were both welded to the outer floor/sill panel near the front spring hanger.

Finally unpick the guttering on the side you want to remove and carefully pry the old guttering out- it is nailed through the roof to the wood top rails.

That is why these repair panels come with a 90 degree bend at the inner edge- to allow spot of plug welding to the rear floor edge/sill panel. Protect well with waxoyl!!

BTW, the rotten right hand side came off my car quite easily as the wood was rotten by then (and much of the underlying metalwork.)

Just one extra thought if you decide to remove one side - there is a metal bracket screwed to the top rail near the B post. The other end of the bracket is secured by a couple of the bolts that hold the roof on, so you still need to roll back part of the headlining to undo the bolts - the screws are not accessible with the roof in place. There's also a corner bracket in the rear corner bracing the top rail to the corner post and the top section over the rear doors. Lots of work however you do it.

chickenjohn wrote: The splash panels were original (and very rusty) on my car and were both welded to the outer floor/sill panel near the front spring hanger.

I at first thought that they should be welded but I am now convinced that they were not having seen them just screwed in place on an extremely original traveller with all its original wood etc.

What finally convinced me is that they are shown seperately in the factory body parts diagram along with the bolt on sill covers.ie not part of the shell assembly.

Interestingly the original cover panels (and the ones on the traveller I saw) are different to the replacements available in that they have a tab and another screw at the back which sits upwards against the outside of the rear wheelarch.

Of course its possible that they may have been welded on some cars?

Having looked more closely at the offending wing I wondering whether to replace the entire inner wing. I can't see on the ESM site which parts I need, the complete inner rear wing for certain:

http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 1271ef22d1

and also the rear arch repair flange:
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/pro ... 1271ef22d1

but I can't see from the diagrams whether one is welded to the other or whether there will be a need for a connecting fillet strip.

Thanks in anticipation ....

Hi

Theres no need for a filler strip - the two panels are simply spot welded together (you can of course seam or plug weld also).

Its quite a job to completely replace the inner wing as its welded to the chassis rails and floor panels so be sure to support carefully and take lots of measurements before, during and after fitting to ensure everything stays in the right place!