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Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:10 am
by David53
One more question before I dive in and strip down the front end. What is the consensus on eyebolt bushes? Poly or Rubber? Some have suggested poly at the rear and rubber at the front. Thoughts?

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:42 am
by moray
I went with poly all around, as the rubber ones don't seem to last very long, and I don't want to have to replace them anytime soon.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:54 am
by bmcecosse
The best seems to be steel centred one piece rubber bushes for the eyebolt, poly elsewhere - although fitting two poly at the tiebar makes it very inflexible, and I opted to fit poly on the outside - but retained a rubber on the inside. The poly taking the braking forces - the rubber allowing some flexibility, and allowing the nut to be tightened right up to get the best possible caster angle!

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:24 am
by MarkyB
"the best possible caster angle"
What would that be then Roy?

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:26 am
by mike.perry
I used metalastic bushes in my eyebolts. Once fitted they are almost there for life, 25 years so far. The outside diameter should just fit in the eyebolt and the inside diameter should just fit over the fulcrum pin. You may have to cut them to the correct length.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:46 pm
by IslipMinor
I fitted Superflex polyurethane bushes everywhere as part of the restoration 12 years and 37,000 miles ago. No problems of any kind, with the exception of the odd squeak from suspension movement - believe the current bushes come with a lubricant? None show any kind of wear, including the front eye bolt ones.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:14 pm
by bmcecosse
Metalastic - that's the name I couldn't remember last night. Best caster angle for me is "as much as possible"!

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:14 am
by MarkyB
I see.
caster angle;
The purpose of this is to provide a degree of self-centering for the steering - the wheel casters around so as to trail behind the axis of steering. This makes a car easier to drive and improves its straight line stability (reducing its tendency to wander). Excessive caster angle will make the steering heavier and less responsive, although, in off-road racing, large caster angles are used to improve camber gain in cornering.

I'm not going to ask what camber gain is.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:14 am
by bmcecosse
Look at any modern car parked on full lock - the 'outer' wheel will be showing a lot of -ve camber - and the 'inner' wheel may actually be in +ve camber. That's camber gain - but of course modern cars also have power steering!

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:57 pm
by David53
Thanks for the advice. Think I will look for some Metallastic Bushes. How about tie rod ends? Poly or Rubber?

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:04 pm
by d_harris
I believe that the lubricant to use on polybushes is white grease.

I've just done the entire front end in poly (albeit cheapies for now) and I have to say the front end feels a darned sight better than it did before.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 11:41 pm
by bmcecosse
As I suggested above - poly on the outside - but (new) rubber on the inside to give a little flexibility.

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:43 am
by Declan_Burns
Has anybody found a source for the metalastic bushes? I never can find them.
Regards
Declan

Re: Eyebolt Bushes

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 8:09 am
by mike.perry
Try your local bearing stockist. I got mine from Brammer UK Ltd, was Bearing Services Ltd.