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Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:55 am
by Squiggle
Hello
There's a crack in my 1952 Series MM sidevalve block!
Some say it could be repaired. Others say another engine.
Advice please.
Many thanks.
Squiggle
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:06 am
by bmcecosse
Almost certainly another engine - depends where the crack is really.
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:09 pm
by Alec
Hello Squiggle,
it almost certainly can be repaired by a specialist, but with a relatively common engine like the side valve, as BMCE says, look for another engine. Specialist casting repairs are usually expensive.
Alec
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:08 pm
by Squiggle
Thanks for the support and advice. Greatly appreciated when folk [non moggy] say 'Get rid of it!'
The crack is in the middle of the block.
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Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:03 pm
by bmcecosse
That could very probably be repaired by 'brazing' - it's not in a high stress area - worth a try. Groove it out then fill in with braze. But how long it would last - well, who knows. For another block - ask on here - and ebay etc etc - maybe an ad in Pratical Classics that sort of thing won't do any harm........
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 5:48 pm
by Squiggle
Many thanks. Have been doing all you suggest. [apart from 'brazing' it

] But will keep on looking......
Must go and light the fire and feed the other moggy!
Take care one and all and keep warm.
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:35 pm
by grumpydad
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:09 am
by Squiggle
Alec wrote:Hello Squiggle,
it almost certainly can be repaired by a specialist, but with a relatively common engine like the side valve, as BMCE says, look for another engine. Specialist casting repairs are usually expensive.
Alec
Good morning all,
Relatively common?
Looking everywhere suggested so far .....
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:59 am
by ASL642
Ask Mike Perry if he knows of one around?
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:22 pm
by Alec
Hello Squiggle,
"Relatively common?"
that was meant in the context of the expense of a specialist repair which would be viable for a rare car, which does not describe the sidevalve Minor.
Alec
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:24 pm
by ian.mcdougall
It looks to be between the water jacket and the head stud hole has it been causing any problems will not a new head gasket work
As for "a relatively common engine like the side valve"

I have been looking for a spare engine for a while now . It needs an overhaul but I have a problem with some of the studs pulling out of the block so have to be extremely careful on tightening the nuts. Also there is leakage of oil and water though the head nuts after hand tightening on my one. So if you find that elusive supply of engines PM me ASAP will you

Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:46 pm
by Squiggle
regaliaqueen wrote:Ask Mike Perry if he knows of one around?
Done. He's on board. Very patient with me and my stress. So is JLH!
I'm very grateful.
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:53 pm
by Squiggle
Just thought. Isn't it the same engine as the Morris 8?
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:04 pm
by ASL642
Just had another look on fleabay - there's a Morris 8 engine on there ?
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:39 pm
by Squiggle
Thanks.
Can anyone please confirm this is the same as my later 918cc block please?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Morris-Eight-Morr ... _500wt_925
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:30 pm
by Squiggle
Don't worry...it's not!
Guru Perry says so.....
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:37 pm
by Squiggle
Just out of interest Quazar Engineering are going to give me a approx quote to stitch it.
Doubt I'd be able to afford it. Will have to see.
Thanks anyway.
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:45 pm
by Squiggle
ian.mcdougall wrote:It looks to be between the water jacket and the head stud hole has it been causing any problems will not a new head gasket work
As for "a relatively common engine like the side valve"

I have been looking for a spare engine for a while now . It needs an overhaul but I have a problem with some of the studs pulling out of the block so have to be extremely careful on tightening the nuts. Also there is leakage of oil and water though the head nuts after hand tightening on my one. So if you find that elusive supply of engines PM me ASAP will you

It was running really hot. So I assumed replacement gasket and a head skim if necessary....but alas ...not so simple.
Wonderful heater
Possibility of 3!! 2 block only and 1 complete.
But I don't know if they are the early or late type. Will know about 2 tomorrow and the other Sat.
There are some terrific folk in this moggy world. Makes me want to keep it after all.
Brain is fuddled after making so many calls.
ps I'll be in touch Ian. Do you need the later one too?
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:04 am
by ian.mcdougall
yes with the water pump hole on front of block
Thanks
Re: Help. Crack in block!
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:26 pm
by Squiggle
Got a few possibles so far.
2 engines [ but 1 definately an early 918cc ] and 2 blocks but not sure if they are the late version yet.
Will know more by Saturday.