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The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:50 am
by CatseyePress
I have replaced all the sill and floor panels I can find on my Traveller but it looks odd from underneath (boxing panel visible) should there be a cover-piece or are the coverings I have seen on others just many years of patching? can someone post a photo of the underside of a correctly assembled sill? thanks!
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:16 am
by taupe
Here is an underside view of a new shell
If you post a pic of yours we can tell you whats missing!!!
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:06 pm
by bmcecosse
The boxing plates are visible from the side until you fit the sill covers.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:20 pm
by d_harris
Pictures speak a thousand words....
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:51 pm
by Sam_Finlay
What a brill photo! Would be V useful if you had a close up of around the back wheel arch?
I'm welding up a 4 door that has gone completely in this area and it would be good to see what it's supposed to look like from about 30cm away. It's a patch up job so I'm doing it on blocks from below.

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Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:00 am
by taupe
No
Im afraid not I borrowed it from an ebay image and the following is borrowed from another poster on this forum
Is this any help? Its not a new shell but is all pretty much as original

Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:57 am
by Sam_Finlay
Thanks for the second photo.
I've taken the fuel tank out because the grinding & welding I need to do is getting a bit close to it. ( It was supposed to be a quick patch up job but when you start chasing rot you end up where you didn't want to go.)
Think I may as well roll it into it side and do a proper job on it now.

Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:15 pm
by MarkyB
Good plan!
It's quite civilised, working standing up not having bits of red hot metal dropping into your sleeves and hair etc.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:40 pm
by xpress
how will you tip it onto its side? i am loving ramps at the moment, very easy to get her up in the air and better clearance than those pesky axle stands!
couple of tyres and turn it on its side? does it leave any dents or is it ok?
cheers.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:30 am
by hotrodder13
i keep pushing mine over in the garage pushed onto wall insulation

just takes me and my dad and no damage is done
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:49 am
by chickenjohn
CatseyePress wrote:I have replaced all the sill and floor panels I can find on my Traveller but it looks odd from underneath (boxing panel visible) should there be a cover-piece or are the coverings I have seen on others just many years of patching? can someone post a photo of the underside of a correctly assembled sill? thanks!
Just read your post again and noticed that you have restored the sills on your
Traveller. If the sill pieces are in place and the wood is still on the Traveller and the boxing plate is visible, if you mean the rear boxing panel is visible, then you are missing the outer "sill" panel that is spot welded to the rest of the rear part of the sills and fixes to the lower step of the wood via three wood screws. It also hides the rear boxing panel.
With access to a metal folder, or even a vice and some angle iron you could make your own piece.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:21 pm
by xpress
re, tipping the car against the wall, that's a fab idea! what insulation do you use and what thickness is it?

Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:21 pm
by hotrodder13
not pushed onto the wall, onto wall insualtion, im a builder so its everywere, there some 100mm polysterine and 100mm cavity wall insualtion

but the polysterine is on the b post and a post not on the bodywork under the rear window as it flexs
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:46 pm
by MarkyB
Old car tyres (off the rims) will do, or a mattress, use you imagination.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:43 pm
by Fingolfin
Hmm. And just tipping it onto a mattress/tires/insulation doesn't put undue pressure on the windows? Seems to me they might crack. Which is why I haven't done this with Mog.
Someone who's gone Minor-tipping -- give us a short walkthrough? How many people, how quickly you tilt the car, what you remove before tipping, etc.? I dearly want to do Mog's bodywork standing up (am tired of turning shiny from embedded metal in my skin after welding/grinding), but the tipping process scares me...
Sorry to hijack the thread!

Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:09 am
by kennatt
I do mine like this (Mind Ive got a strong roof in the garage) with block and tackle on roof timbers and simply ,with straps round the front and rear suspension on one side,lift at an angle that side of the car,untill it is almost over but still on its wheels on the other side gives good access and the body never touches the floor,then with stout timber suport it just in case the tackle gives way,if you get the angles right most of the weight is held on the tackle so no great strain on the wheels,I usually try to get it so that the tackle is straight up and down or as near as possible,it depends if you have a good roof of course,and enough height.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:03 am
by hotrodder13
mines just a bare shell so put the insulation on the floor and im on one end and my dad on the other and we slowly tip it over only takes 5 mins and no damage has been done, (tipped about 3 times)
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:39 pm
by Sam_Finlay
Here's mine - tipped it over last week. I've become a fan of Phil's Sheredan's DIY videos and watched his one on tipping before doing mine. The link is here if you don't mind the 30 second advert before it plays.
http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Tip-a- ... -265521764
Thank heavens I did turn it over. The rot is a lot worse than I could see from below. LOTS of welding needed.Note the foam filler that someone has kindly left me to deal with as well

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Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:42 pm
by MarkyB
Nice video! I tipped a traveller over, engine still in, with the help of my old dad.
Instead of putting the wheels on other wheels I jacked it up as far as my trolley jack would go and took it from there.
I seem to recall that I used 3 wheels with carpet on top to take the load and protect the paint.
That foam is going to be a nightmare when you start welding.
I'd suggest getting rid of it maybe with a blow lamp and some way to put out the fire.
It will burn like mad and stink to high heaven, but the whole thing could be turning into a big fireball while you have you goggles on and are concentrating on getting a nice weld.
Re: The Usual Sills!
Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:15 pm
by Sam_Finlay
Yea - the foam's going to be a right pain. It has been put everywhere there is a cavity.
The rot is bad enough to justify replacing the whole floor to sill section from front to back. So I'll be hacking it all out anyway. So much for it being a quick patch-up job. I'm leaving it on its side for the moment while I get my Pick-up sorted.