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horn
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:29 pm
by cadetchris
having recently liberated a set of two tone horns from my ex-austin, i have decided to give primrose a new voice. however, the horns dont actually work, despite a good clean.is there a way of refurbishing them so they work nicely?
Re: horn
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:31 pm
by bmcecosse
Open them up and clean the contacts.
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:39 pm
by mike.perry
Make sure that the wiring is in good condition, they draw a lot of current. There should be an adjuster screw in the middle of the horn, try screwing it in or out, it may work.
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:48 pm
by cadetchris
cleaned all the points, tried a few different ways of wiring them up (on the bench) and hay presto one set of very loud horns. going to give them a repaint and then install them in primrose.
where would the best place to mount them within the engine bay?
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:28 pm
by bmcecosse
Pointing forward - best actually to NOT have them in the engine bay - because they will be 'muffled' in there! Mount under the front bumper ?? The Minor horn push will not be rated for two of these horns - best use a relay.........
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:35 pm
by cadetchris
where could one find such a relay? and how is it wired in?
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:58 pm
by bmcecosse
Lucas 6RA is ideal. Many sources - here's one
http://www.vintagemotorspares.com/phdi/ ... ent&part=5 Google for how to wire a relay - it's been explained on here many times in the past.
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:53 pm
by cadetchris
smashing, would you suggest fixing then to the chassis rails facing forwards? or maybe using the bumper irons as mounting points?
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:17 pm
by bmcecosse
Pointed down so they don't scoop up water!
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:38 pm
by cadetchris
i had a wolseley that did that once, made the horn sound very odd
Re: horn
Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:45 pm
by cadetchris
i think ill have to have a look where they would best fit, i am tempted to use the engine mounts as a mounting point for the horns, maybe sandwiching them between chassis and mount, but i am thinking that that may used things alot more than necessary. so suggestions for mounting points would be good
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:00 pm
by cadetchris
having trawled the forums for somthing about the wiring required to fit the two horns, i also nipped in to halfords to get a relay, but i got confused about the wiring, so how does one wire them up? (a diagram would be of benefit)
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:19 pm
by bmcecosse
The relay is just a switch. So -your horn button works the relay - and then it works the horns! Simples!!!
Google for it - plenty of guidance there - and it's been on here plenty of times too - search for it.
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:35 pm
by MarkyB
The button or switch energises the solenoid (coil looking thing).
The horn, or other load, is switched through the contacts.
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:59 pm
by cadetchris
right, had a google trawl and came up with this
http://media.photobucket.com/image/twin ... schema.jpg
any good?
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 7:25 pm
by MarkyB
Do those number match up with your relay?
Two or more connectors should energise the solenoid, when you put 12 volts across them there should be a click and a bunch of contacts should come together.
If the cover is clear you should be able to see what connects to what.
Re: horn
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:43 pm
by bmcecosse
That's the idea - except your horn button works by earthing the current AFTER it has been through the relay.
Re: horn
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 5:31 pm
by cadetchris
so to clarify, i would have the two original wires for the horn go into the relay,
one wire from each horn, whilst the other goes to earth and one wire direct from a live source?
or have i got it wrong again?
Re: horn
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:50 pm
by bmcecosse
Just follow the diagram.......!
Re: horn
Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:52 pm
by cadetchris
right, electrical side sorted,
where can i out them? my engine bay is a forest of servo, 3 branch exhaust and heater air inlet, so they really cannot go in there. underneath the car leaves a few mm above the ground, so thats out, as does the idea of using the bumper mounts as it leaves them very low to the floor.
so i am a bit lost really. i could mount them on the cross bar within the bonnet, it would result in a little wire bridging the gap, but it could solve the problem