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VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:15 am
by rostefix
Hi folks,
I bought a Morris Minor on Ebay germany. It was offered without title because the owner had lost ist. Yesterday I picked it up and today I searched for the VIN in order to identify which year it was made and to confirm it is not stolen. Unfortunately I was dumb enough not to look for the VIN on pickup... the plates beside the fusebox and beside the radiator are missing

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Is there another location where the VIN is printed on the car? All the other cars I had had their VINs printed somewhere on the body, but on this car I can't find it...
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:31 am
by PSL184
The numbers should also be stamped into the bulkhead, beneath where the plate is screwed on - around the area the accelerator cable goes through the bulkhead.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:43 am
by rostefix
looked there, didn't find anything. looks like I will remove the paint around that area tomorrow...
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:25 pm
by bmcecosse
These cars are pre-VIN - they do however carry a 'chassis number' - although I have never been able to find the supposedly 'stamped' number on my car.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:32 pm
by MColes
There's a number stamped into the floor about 6 inches infront of the driver's seat in my car.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:37 pm
by aupickup
mine is stamped in the drivers floor as well
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:42 pm
by bmcecosse
I assume as long as you have the registration number - you will just apply for the documents - and the chassis number will be on them ? Then get a new chassis plate made up - problem sorted.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 4:43 pm
by alex_holden
And on my saloon... But the cab floor is a common place to get cut out and replaced during a restoration so it could have legitimately been lost.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:04 pm
by rostefix
The number plates are useless in Germany - every time someone else buys a car it gets a new license plate depending on where he lives. I found the number beside the throttle cable - it begins with 52 and ends with 75, the rest is drilled away, there is a hole where someone put the tube for an Oil Pressure gauge through.
Can someone describe me where the number is in relation to the master brake cylinder, or post a picture? there is a thick layer of bitumen on my floor, I don't want to scrape that all off.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:20 pm
by bmcecosse
I looked both places on my Trav - and no sign of a stamped number anywhere. So - what do you need to do to get the car registered as YOURS ?
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:28 pm
by rostefix
I guess you have the plate with the chassis number on it mounted on your vehicle.... so you can prove it is your car because you have the V5. I do not have the plate with the chassis number nor v5 nor the "title" (german KFZ Brief). The person that has the "KFZ Brief" with the number maching the chassis number or VIN is the owner of the car.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:03 am
by alex_holden
rostefix wrote: the rest is drilled away, there is a hole where someone put the tube for an Oil Pressure gauge through.
Doh!
Can someone describe me where the number is in relation to the master brake cylinder, or post a picture?
I don't think they stamped the number in both places, it was either the bulkhead or the floor.

Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 8:06 am
by alex_holden
This is where it is on my saloon:

Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:36 am
by bmcecosse
Well - mine is 1965 Trav -and no sign of stamped number in either place - and both 'appear' to be original panels.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:26 am
by rostefix
Well, I'll at least have a look - if it's not there I'll have to fit a replacement Chassis...
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:36 am
by bmcecosse
Replacement chassis --------- I don't think so!

Re: VIN Location
Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:54 am
by rostefix
Hm, if there is no chassis number I'll have to get another moggy and bolt all my parts to the new chassis. Cutting out the nubers on a scrapped car wouldn't be legal I think.
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:18 pm
by rostefix
Finally I found a way to get it registered without the chassis number... they will give the car a new number beginning with "TP" and bill me around 200 bucks for that

... lots of money for a f**ki** number, but better than crushing my moggie...
Re: VIN Location
Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:37 pm
by bmcecosse
Well done!