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suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:40 pm
by hotrodder13
i have been racing the moggy this weekend and it was great, best thrill i have ever had,

my best time was 1min 24 secs (a new bmw 330 only got 1.23 and a 5.2 liter 67 camero only got 1.25)

i was told i was shifting and braking at the right time but it had a lot of body roll

so what suspension mods are good to stop this

thanks tom

(p.s cant imagine how it would be to drive jonathon's car :D )

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:44 pm
by PSL184
Clearly you need to get your cheque book out and speak to Jono at JLH

Tell him I sent you and I'll get a discount on my next purchase but you'll have to pay twice as much :lol:

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:50 pm
by jonathon
Ho, ho, ho, nice sense of humour matey :lol: :lol: . We're not expensive as you get a good product :wink:
Hotrodder, you are welcome to provide some ballast in the passenger seat at Llandow this saturday ( west of Cardiff) I'll be there at 8.30 am - 5.00 pm so plenty of time on track. Where were you racing then ? :D

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:55 pm
by PSL184
I didn't suggest you were expensive mate - Quality has to be paid for, we know that :lol:
Just make sure my 5 link rear end, coil over fronts etc is racking up a suitable discount with all these recommendations, hahahaha :wink:

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:55 pm
by MColes
jonathon wrote: Llandow this saturday ( west of Cardiff) I'll be there at 8.30 am - 5.00 pm so plenty of time on track.
Not wanting to be pushy but... is this event open to anyone as I'm only in Cardiff? Might pop along and take a look :D

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:03 pm
by jonathon
I'm afraid its fully booked for kit cars as its an Omex trackday. I'm fortunate to know Omex's MD very well so had an invite. You are more than welcome to come on over though for a passenger ride. You will need to have a helmet and covered arms when in the car. ( brown paper bag is optional) Hope to see you there.
I believe that we will be at LLandow later this year. Chris Darwin is organising this charity event and has advertised in Minor Matters, so if you are quick you may well get a place. :wink: :D

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:09 pm
by MColes
Well I wouldn't take my car on the track even if I could :o :lol:

Just wanted to come take a look though I wouldn't say no to a passenger ride if I can get a helmet :D

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:12 pm
by jonathon
I'll pop my spare in the car just in case, its not the latest fashion accessory but will do the job.

HR, go for better dampers, and triangulated radius arms. Last resort is an anti roll bar. :wink:

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 8:47 pm
by hotrodder13
i was racing at a track just of the toll on m6 in birmingham, it was a hotrod meet so there was load racing, i might go for adjustable spax rather then coilovers to save money, also what do you mean by triangulated radius arms

thanks tom

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 9:12 pm
by jonathon
I think you can do a lot better than Spax. We currently use AVO products.
Triangulated radius arms are mounted to the top of the axle tube either side of the diff, they then angle outwards towards the front spring hangers to form a 'triangle'. The benefit of this system as opposed to tramp bars is that they provide anti tramp and locate the axle in a similar fashion to a panhard rod. We run Omex's traveller with this system , plus a panhard rod and turreted rear dampers on std leaf springs. The front end is our A arm coil overs. The car has very neutral handling and can be thrown into corners at unbelievable speeds and still remain balanced.

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:17 pm
by hotrodder13
do you only do the gas damper kit, also what would i need to do to use the rear radious arm kit

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:28 pm
by jonathon
The dampers we use are all gas . If you can PM me your email address I'll send you some pics of the radius arm kit. There should be one on the site if I remember. :wink:

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:32 pm
by bmcecosse
Oh go on Jono - let us all see it!

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:41 pm
by hotrodder13
can i have some piks of the damer kits and how easy are they to install :D thanks

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:53 pm
by bmcecosse
Most of the parts are shown on the JLH website http://www.jlhmorrisminors.co.uk/

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:14 pm
by jonathon
Ok here goes
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Axle bracket welded either side of the diff and onto a large spreader plate and bracket at the front. inside the car beneath the seat is a load spreader plate to dissipate the stresses[frame]Image[/frame][frame]Image[/frame]

Afraid I lost all of the pics of the front kit install due to a puta crash some months ago :-? Still hope these help :D

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:34 pm
by bmcecosse
Great pics - and look v well made and sturdy - but in what way is it 'triangulated' ?? They look to be in line with the car centre line ? Or is that just the angle of the picture ??

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 11:39 pm
by jonathon
Its the angle of the pic I think. The front bracket runs along side the front spring hanger, so they are about 6-8" wider per arm than the axle bracket end.

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:11 pm
by hotrodder13
wow looks gud heres the bracket

need to see what i want now :D[frame]Image[/frame]

and whats that bit covering the damper

Re: suspension upgrade

Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:18 pm
by jonathon
Has the rivett snapped or just pulled out. As you say a bolt will do the job fine. I'll make the supplier aware of the failure. Was this supporting a large silencer ? or do you have a pic of it.

Cheers

Jono :D