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National Rally 2010
Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:20 pm
by bpr81a
Latest information on the 2010 National Rally is
here

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:23 pm
by jonathon
Entertainment
* Pioneers display - American re enactment of the late 1800’s
* Owl Display
* Children’s entertainment
* Visit Harewood House and Gardens (Extra entry fee applicable) The House is a magnificent Georgian mansion overlooking a landscape by Capability Brown, with Robert Adam interiors: ceilings, fireplaces,carpets and Chippendale furniture specially commissioned for the House
Sorry to be negative, but its just the same old stuff relocated to a new venue. How on earth is this format going to stimulate new younger membership. Time to move away from the glorified 'village fete' mentality and bring the Nationals up to date and give it the promenance it deserves.
Sorry

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:51 pm
by mike.perry
Add to the list:-
Vehicle repair displays.
Always happens in the Series MM area

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:01 pm
by PSL184
What about a "how to..." theme this year...?
We already have Mat's boot rack and roof rack to fit - any other suggestions and volunteers?
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:20 pm
by sgray
Silly questions but..
is it free to members?
does it cost to camp and will I have to book?
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:24 pm
by PSL184
No
Yes
Yes

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:36 pm
by aupickup
jonathon wrote:Entertainment
* Pioneers display - American re enactment of the late 1800’s
* Owl Display
* Children’s entertainment
* Visit Harewood House and Gardens (Extra entry fee applicable) The House is a magnificent Georgian mansion overlooking a landscape by Capability Brown, with Robert Adam interiors: ceilings, fireplaces,carpets and Chippendale furniture specially commissioned for the House
Sorry to be negative, but its just the same old stuff relocated to a new venue. How on earth is this format going to stimulate new younger membership. Time to move away from the glorified 'village fete' mentality and bring the Nationals up to date and give it the promenance it deserves.
Sorry

entirely agree
the clubs main rally needs to become more modern orientated
but i fear this will not happen, until the website is the main clubs avenue for debate and descisions
remeber dinasaurs became extinct

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:43 pm
by sgray
PSL184 wrote:No
Yes
Yes

Bother.. and I suppose I'll have to bring my own tent too.. though it sounds like a wigwam would be more 'in character'
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:45 pm
by PSL184
Some camp and some stay in local B&B's. You could always throw a sleeping bag in the back of the truck

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:55 pm
by aupickup
and your own shower if you want a decent wash
why cant the club just get booked into a proper camp site for once

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:32 pm
by paulk
* Owl Display
On motorbikes or just jumping through flaming hoops?
Must agree to a point with current statements.
I think the Nationals have to show an interest to all potential as well as current owners and this would need more than a 2 day Village Fete.
But we also need to remember it is a 50 plus year old vehicle and Some of the Olde worlde stuff kind of fits with its character.
Maybe have it in the statly home grounds but upgrade some of the entertainment?
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:42 pm
by aupickup
but the VW is also the same age, and their clun has some great national rallies
it is time the club moved on into the 21st cebtury if it wants to keep the members
i have been to many nationals, and i am afraid they all are the same just different places
we have clowns or have had, also owls and dog displays normally the same ones, shambles of a disco and so called entertainment and normally in the back yard of someones house
there are many venues suitable ie longleat, donnington ( we did have one there and it was very good), many p[laces in the midlands area and also places like criche , what about wales many places there
does not allways have to be a stately home,
i know its not easy to please everyone but we do need to get away from this glorified sunday fetes for the elderly
we need desperately to cater for the youngsters, for they are the ones that will be running the club later on
sorry but the nationals are just a bit on the boring butlins style of entertainment
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:43 pm
by jonathon
Pioneers display - American re enactment of the late 1800’s
Think this is pushing the boundaries of 'Olde worlde stuff kind of fits with its character.'
The cars maybe 50 odd , and I'm almost 50 but the only beneficial aspect of this sort of presentation at a National , is meeting friends,customers and new aquainancies.
What 16-25 year olds think is beyond me, when they see the vibrant shows for the Mini, Beetle, and Ford classics.
Now, if the MMOC tagged its National along with the Retro Cars show or shared the Mini National, then we might see something of interest.
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:46 pm
by dalebrignall
showers and propper loos are a basic requirement when you see the number of people that camp,please please get it right this year,we are not near glastenbury so that cant be used as an excuse i will be there for the whole weekend this year
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:09 pm
by sgray
Yes, I've heard the loos on the campsite have not been good. Can I register a vote for decent facilities.. as I plan to camp (well, sleep under the tonneau at least)
So, all those that have been to these things before, a large beer tent, Cajun cook hut and bluegrass band is not likely then?
Simon
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:12 pm
by DanRodd
when i was involved in the Reliant club rallies we had a similar problem,(im 21 btw) where there was little of interest to a lot of us camping,ie bingo,stupid games,poor "entertainers" basically we would gather in a part of the site and have a nice evening drinking and chatting,i would reccomend it if the offical entertainment doesnt float your boat!
i will be going to this one this year,the first i have done,and intend to camp over the whole rally,although im sure the costs will take some getting used to,im used to free entry and £5 a nite to camp

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:24 pm
by bpr81a
Last year we had a large 'website' area within the camp site. I would imagine we'll have the same again this year. See you there

Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:27 pm
by mike.perry
Don't worry Simon there will be plenty of people camping including me and others from the O&B branch. I hope they have the trailer loos near the tents like they had at the last Harewood rally.
A point about various locations mentioned. They might sound exotic but they cost a fortune to hire and the team have to stay within a budget which is based on the expected turnout, a vicious circle, good weather, good rally, good turnout next year. Bad weather etc.
There have been comments about how fantastic the VW rallies are etc. Can someone tell us what they actually do which makes them so good, it might give the organising team who have a thankless task some ideas.
Mike Perry
Member of the Bleinham 50th Anniversary Organising Team
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:41 pm
by IaininTenbury
aupickup wrote:and your own shower if you want a decent wash
why cant the club just get booked into a proper camp site for once

They did, once, at Billing Aquadrome near Northampton in the mid 90s
Result - level site, good camping, plenty of showers, loos, washing places etc. Ithought it seemed to work very well. Only official entertainment I recall was the blindfolded driving competion, though thats probably banned by H&S and the venue is probably prohibitably expensive now. Must be a good reason why we never returned.
Re: National Rally 2010
Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:04 pm
by moggie-tom
jonathon wrote:
Sorry to be negative, but its just the same old stuff relocated to a new venue. How on earth is this format going to stimulate new younger membership. Time to move away from the glorified 'village fete' mentality and bring the Nationals up to date and give it the promenance it deserves.
Sorry

I'm 19 and I like village fetes

Never been to the National before though, hoping to go this year. I'm also hoping to do the North Yorkshire Moors drive from Britain's Best Drives, as I'll be half way there anyway. Does anyone know when we will be getting entry forms?