Morris Minor Owners Club

Hi, I just bought some seat belts from bull motif for the back seats. They are just static 3 point belts. I had to wait 6 weeks for my garage to fit me in and then he rang today to say he couldn't do it!

Any suggestions on how they fit. I have a 1970 traveller. Or does anyone know of any garages that know about morris'?! I live in southend-on-sea essex area.

Luke

They will have to do it the old fashioned way with substantial bracing plates underneath. The rear (over shoulder) one is mounted on top of the rear wheel arch with a big thick plate underneath on the other side of the arch. Someone must have fotos that they could post.

Standard 3 point belts may not be long enough for use in the back of a Trav. Better to use inertia reels - which can be mounted on top of the rear arches - with good plates below! Did the 'garage' say why they couldn't fit them ? Can't be much of a 'garage' - I would find somewhere else for future!

Maybe , if they were not a Minor aware garage, they were reluctant to fit safety critical items to a vehicle with no original fixing points. They may not wish to take the risk of making the secure brackets , in these days of rampant litigation. Or maybe they gave a fitting price over the phone without realising the work involved and shuddered at the labour cost.
Its suprising , just how many garage workers have not even heard of , let alone worked on a Minor

Securion list two codes for estate car inertia belts and list the shorter of the two for the traveller. Unfortunately it is the longer set which fit. I will have a look at the serial codes tomorrow

MIke's point is extremely important the shorter of the belts are no use whatsoever for a Traveller and yet the speciallist suppliers seem to continue selling them.

Securion do different lengths. When ordering ask your supplier for the longer ones stating they are for the rear of a Traveller, otherwise they will sell you the ones suitable for the rear of a Mini (suitable for the Saloon/Convertible only.)

bmcecosse wrote:Standard 3 point belts may not be long enough for use in the back of a Trav. Better to use inertia reels - which can be mounted on top of the rear arches - with good plates below! Did the 'garage' say why they couldn't fit them ? Can't be much of a 'garage' - I would find somewhere else for future!

Yes, i agree- not much of a garage if they can't work on just about the simplest car ever made!

I would take your car to a classic car garage or at the very least one that works on and knows about classics. I seem to remember Rob Thomasson wrote an article in Minor Matters some time ago about fitting rear seat belts to a Traveller. It may be on the technical tips CD.

Hi I live in Benfleet and own a 2 door 62 moggy, and use a garage on Manor trading estate called Cartec they are going to fit front seatbelts in may when she goes in for mot and service one of the mechanics Steve owns a frogeye sprite he literally rebuilt and works on lambrettas which he owns. Could be worth a call 01268 795507.

With the Securon inertia belts, you also have to watch for the 'Retractor Angle' and select a version that is designed to sit flat on the wheel arch. (http://www.securon.co.uk/seatbelts_layouts.htm).

For my traveller, I used '264' in the back (270cm) and they are fine; Securon recommend '254' (213cm). I bought them via fleaBay along with (pack of 6) threaded racing seat belt plates .

Also, search the forum as there are some really good photos of someone's Traveller inertia seat belt installation points.

Thanks everyone for help the seatbelts I've bought are from Bull Motif http://www.morrisminorspares.net/shop_item.php?ID=3664.

So will these be too small? Or will these fit?

Thanks humble pie for number, I'll give him a ring, see if he can fit them.

Luke

I mean they advertise these to fit "all models"! Why say that if they don't!??

The PN 254 as recommended for the traveller are too short, as I found out. Oh well I will just have to fit them in the back of the 2 door. The ones to use are the PN 264.
You would have thought by now that the traders would have picked up on this problem and started supplying the correct belts.
It is not until the belts have been fitted that you realize that they are incorrect

Crazy Isn't it! So those ones on Bull motif are not gonna fit my Trav?! They are the 200 ones.

Seems not -send them back and ask for the correct ones! And - ask them to make a note for future ref!