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Rattle can or spray gun?!
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:22 pm
by bluemoggie1970
Hi guys.
Sorry if this has been covered before, but I'm looking to respray the wings on my traveller but don't know what best to use....a spray can OR spray gun (using thinned cellulose)?
What do you think? Can you get a professional finish with a can?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:11 pm
by MoggyTech
The rattle cans as sold by ESM and the like are actually very good. Spray pattern is close to a spray gun. At about £11 a go they are not cheap though. HVLP spray guns are cheap, and easy to use with a little practice.
Be sure to use a suitable mask, and take proper fire precautions. The beauty of celly paint, is it can be wet sanded to remove any imperfections. You may want to wait for warmer weather though, unless you have a garage heated by a source that wont ignite the paint fumes.
Re: Rattle can or spray gun?!
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:20 pm
by PSL184
bluemoggie1970 wrote:Can you get a professional finish with a can?
I'd say you could get a decent enough finish for a daily driver but I doubt you'd be winning any competitions. However, the MOST important part is the preparation....
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:35 pm
by bluemoggie1970
Very true. Thanks for advice chaps!
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:05 pm
by jonathon
I'd just add , if spraying celly ontop of original paint (Celly) then watch for it blistering. The thinners in the spray can , can re activate the original paint. Better to strip the wing , prime and then top coat. Use light coats to biuld up to a top coat, can take 6-9 coats depending on the colour.
Make sure that the panel you are spraying is totally dry and if you can warm it up first as with the paint. As mentioned spray in the warm and keep the garage ? warm for atleat 8 hours after spraying this will reduce the problem of moisture absorbtion and possible 'micro blistering'.
If Santa is good to you, then a wing primed and 2K painted by a pro bodyshop would cost in the region of £130. plus vat
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:23 pm
by bluemoggie1970
Ok thanks Jonathan, just a quick question, how should I warm it?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:36 pm
by 8009STEVE
With a heater?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:57 pm
by jonathon
Try and use a dry heat, as some heaters create moisture.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:22 pm
by MoggyTech
Best heaters are the sealed quartz units as used by a lot of bodyshops.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:11 pm
by bmcecosse
But- make sure any heater used doesn't have an element at high enough temperature to ignite the vapours! Good tip is to warm the can in bucket of v hot water before use - and of course rattle it well. many thin coats is the way to go - you CAN get a perfectly satisfactory finish with good rattle cans - just keep cleaning the nozzle - and keep re-warming the can.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:19 am
by billlobban
Noce to see you back again Jonathon - Merry Christmas
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:16 pm
by bluemoggie1970
Thanks guys I will do as above. Your help is much appreciated!
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:10 pm
by mrbenn
There is a chap in this area with a Triumph Vitesse, sprayed himself with spray cans. Finish is superb! From memory, and I could be wrong, it took 25-30 cans to do.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:31 pm
by bmcecosse
" sprayed himself with spray cans " - like - in Goldfinger ?
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:37 pm
by mrbenn
Ha, whoops!
He didn't leave a small area of bodywork blank either IIRC...
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:19 pm
by MoggyTech
Good to see the sense of humor is still alive and kicking.
There is a Mark One Jag I frequently see at South Queensferry. It has been painted by hand, with brush and coach paint. The finish is stunning, and rock hard. Painted with 'Tornol' many moons ago, and still looks like new.