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A little sad I think...
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:03 pm
by new_adventures_of_arthur
sorry if this has already been posted...
Saw Ford were offering 5k scrappage deal and wondered if the deal had shot up - it hasn't, just they're own spin on it. Anyway, just read this on their Just read this on ford.co.uk
A new car every 27 years...
August 2009 - The team at County Garage in Herne Bay was delighted when, after 27 years, Stanley O’Shea decided to change his Ford Fiesta Bravo. Mr O’Shea, 76, bought the car new from the Dealership in 1982 but recently decided to change it for the new Ford Ka Style+.
He paid £3,744 for the car originally, and benefitted from £2,000 towards the new model under the Scrappage Scheme.
Mr O’Shea said the car had done only 67,000 miles and had always been well looked after, so he probably wouldn’t have changed if it were not for the scheme. When he bought his Fiesta Bravo it ‘boasted’ halogen headlamps, passenger door mirror and removable sunroof!
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:52 pm
by simona1
Crying shame another one gone forever, scrappage scheme has its good points and bad points.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:01 pm
by purplebargeken
Not entirely sure what the good points are. We have no british car industry to benefit. It fails to target the clapped out old bangers that the drivers can't afford to repair/maintain/tax/mot/insure anyway and targets most of the loved older cars that we like to see. If I'm wrong fair enough, but the one doing the best out of this is Hyundai. bet they are well pleased with the UK governments decision. Lovely.
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:28 pm
by plastic_orange
My son is waiting delivery of a new Fiat 500 Abarth, and is getting £2k off the top for his 95 Cavalier. It's a shame as the car is mint, but who else would give him £2k for it.
Pete
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:35 pm
by bmcecosse
Ahh - but what deal would he have got without the 'scrappage'? After all - the Company are supplying £1000 - and the Government the other £1000. So, really, he is only getting £1000 'extra' for the car as scrappage - they would probably have given the 'Company' £1000 off without scrappage. And the car could then have been sold privately - whether it would raise £1000 or not would depend on the condition!
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:01 am
by Blaketon
Whilst I don't support the idea of the Scrappage Scheme (But because we have an over zealous description of "Politics", it leaves very little room for comment on it), one point which I think should have been considered, was to redeem sound cars and sell those on to those who cannot afford a new car and who have genuine bangers and scrap those instead.
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:46 pm
by new_adventures_of_arthur
I think at least the cars should be broken for parts down at least.
This way, less call for more replacement parts to be manufactured - which means less manufacturing and less greenhouse gasses.
And since less of the car will be sent to be crushed, the crushers will be used less, which again cuts down on CO2.
Which consequently, reduces the need for disgruntled farts like me to use electricity posting my thoughts on a forum - which also reduces greenhouse gasses.
And the time saved posting on forum, means I can go down the pub and "support my local economy".
I should be prime minister - I really should.
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:30 pm
by LouiseM
I think at least the cars should be broken for parts down at least.
Under the scheme parts can be removed from the vehicles before scrapping.
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:33 pm
by nobby59
The scrappage car scheme isn't all bad but I agree it's sad to see a decent car go to scrap. But it may push up the prices of original classics on the road. What worries me more is the prospect that cars over a certain age will be forced off the road altogether. All motorist feel the cost of rising fuel and it does make one think twice whether a journey necessitates going by car.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:51 pm
by new_adventures_of_arthur
LouiseM wrote:Under the scheme parts can be removed from the vehicles before scrapping.
It seems I have beeen misinformed by one of my policy advisors. Still, I recon I should still be prime minister.
First decree, would be to commission a bit boat, fill it full of chavs, then sink it in the middle of the pacific.
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:35 pm
by plastic_orange
bmcecosse wrote:Ahh - but what deal would he have got without the 'scrappage'? After all - the Company are supplying £1000 - and the Government the other £1000. So, really, he is only getting £1000 'extra' for the car as scrappage - they would probably have given the 'Company' £1000 off without scrappage. And the car could then have been sold privately - whether it would raise £1000 or not would depend on the condition!
Try getting an Abarth in the first place - he has waited nearly 6 months for it, and there are no deals to be cut - hence £2k off the top is a result for him. We just took the alloys and the CD player off it today, returning it to standard - and will reclaim the road tax too. He can't wait for wednesday.
Pete
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:54 pm
by Blaketon
new_adventures_of_arthur wrote:LouiseM wrote:Under the scheme parts can be removed from the vehicles before scrapping.
It seems I have beeen misinformed by one of my policy advisors. Still, I recon I should still be prime minister.
First decree, would be to commission a bit boat, fill it full of chavs, then sink it in the middle of the pacific.
Can I be your Chancellor - I just like to be reunited with my money
!!
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:21 pm
by Dean
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:53 pm
by Longdog
The 5 to 8000 Greyhounds that go for scrap every year really are worth worrying about.An old Fiesta, is it really any loss?
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:13 pm
by plastic_orange
My son's old Cavalier on Christmas eve prior to scrapping:
His new Abarth:
He's happy.
Pete
Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:26 pm
by les
The 5 to 8000 Greyhounds that go for scrap every year really are worth worrying about
You're not alone with that thought.
Nice Fiat btw
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:48 pm
by Longdog
Thanks for that Les. We should be careful what we wish for, I for one do not want newer cars regarded as "classics" because if there are too many around that don't fall in line in terms of emissions the government is likely to legislate against all cars that are over a certain age.
We currently enjoy special status, but I am sure that if the classic car movement were to grow too big this would cease to be the case.
Other European countries already have implemented various limited use schemes so the same could happen here.