You'll never guess what i found in the traficators !!

Post by **iandromiskin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:41 pm

Background first - KAS is a 1958 four door Moggie made in England (naturally) and immediately exported to Zimbabwe where it spent all its life until 2002 when it came home with its owner. Many of you will remember this car was for sale in Stanford Hall some years ago where it was bought by an Irish member, and now its mine.

But... in playing around with the car today (see post in the electrical section) I decided to take off the plate covering the traficators and I found some original (i presume) African occupants - three insect nests (empty). Isn't that mad

P.S. the nests are the light coloured things that look like someone stuck chewing gum in there.

The first nest. Unfortunatly it broke away and fell down the B pillar when I put the traficator back in

There is another bigger one on the other side too, and a third in the passenger side as well.

Incidently - the traficators have been disconnected as the car is fitted with front and rear flashing indicators. How do I go about getting the traficators working again ??

Post by **PSL184** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:44 pm

Wiring diagram is in the workshop maunual. Straight forward enough to follow it.

Post by **bigjohn** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:07 pm

just done my 61 saloon very easy the wires from the traficators run into the boot where they join the rear indicator wires with double bullet conectors

Post by **Sidney'61** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:51 pm

bigjohn wrote:just done my 61 saloon very easy the wires from the traficators run into the boot where they join the rear indicator wires with double bullet conectors

Wired like that wouldn't it mean that you trafficators pop in and out with the flashing of the indicators?

Or have you got an extra relay in there you haven't told us about?

Post by **mike.perry** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:46 pm

See the trafficator/indicator wiring diagram on the Series MM website under technical info. http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:09 pm

Flapping up and down should certainly attract attention!

Post by **MColes** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:20 pm

bmcecosse wrote:Flapping up and down should certainly attract attention!

I'd love to see that

Post by **stevey** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:46 pm

KAS? was this the 4 door with the shortened parcel shelf? really nice motor

Post by **iandromiskin** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:20 pm

Shortend parcel shelf ??? Not sure. It has a parcel shelf all right but it doesn't look shortened or cut in any way. It was the car for sale at Stanford Hall. Really good underside but horrible paintwork which put a lot of people off.

Post by **stevey** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:36 pm

im thinking of a green 4 door where the parcel shelf stopped fefore the steering coloum and didnt come any further out. must be another one then. Well as long as you dont have any residents living in it you'll be ok!!!

Post by **taupe** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:34 pm

Hi

Talking of former residents ive just removed 3 fieldmouse nests in the sill cavities and about 200 odd used hazlenuts and fir cone stems from within the air intake duct under the footwell. Theres a great big pile of it under the car now - makes a change from piles of rust!!!

Post by **Gareth** » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:19 pm

That was common on the earlier cars, I believe. They extended it in later years (perhaps the late 50's?) to make it more useable. For those cars, a fascia panel was used to direct the heater output through a slot in the shelf.

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:23 pm

Easiest way of having trafficators and indicators, I've found is to have the original constant 12v supply to the switch so it can be directed left and right. From the switch, this feeds the appropiate trafficator, and a flasher unit that powers the indiactors on that side. So you have two separate flasher units one for each side fed from the wire that goes to the trafficator. Hope that makes sense - it gives the constant 12v supply to the trafficators and flashing supply to the bulbs at each end. The flasher units can be tucked under the dash out of sight if you want it to look original.

Post by **mike.perry** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:21 am

See the trafficator/indicator wiring diagram on the Series MM website under technical info.

http://seriesmm.mmoc.org.uk

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:59 am

Yes, thats the one! Saw a car some time ago where the bulb flashed in the trafficators which looked quite neat. Presumably an extra wire from the flashing part of the circuit was routed to the trafficators to power just the bulb.

Post by **mike.perry** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:04 am

It may be that the bulb flashes faster than the arm can go up and down, otherwise the wiring to the bulb has to be insulated from the trafficator wiring. I would be interested to see a wiring diagram for that arrangement

Post by **IaininTenbury** » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:01 pm

Me too. I wondered how it had been done. Saw it on a car coming back from an East Yorks branch do at Fort Paul a few years back. Looked quite effective, and sort of turned the trafficator into a 'side repeater' from a quaint anachronism to a practical feature for modern driving...

Post by **swithland** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:24 pm

Ive worked out how to make the modifications to the trafficators to make them flash. Ive posted the know how under Flashing Trafficators. Here is the link : http://www.mmoc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f= ... rs#p351606

Hope this helps. Any questions, pls ask !!

Regards
Charles

Morris Minor Owners Club

You'll never guess what i found in the traficators !!

You'll never guess what i found in the traficators !!

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