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Key mystery
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:01 pm
by Peetee
I have just recieved two replacement keys from one of the main Minor suppliers. Typical then that the one I lost turned up the next day

but at least it allowed me to check the number - which matches the barrel. Nevertheless the replacements don't fit. They are longer and totally different profile. I will contact the supplier when I get my landline back (

) but can anyone shed any light on this anomoly?
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:12 pm
by PSL184
There are "FP" and "FS" keys - did they send the correct ones?
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:18 pm
by alanworland
I like the way Morris used to put the key number on the front of the ignition barrel! - you can read it through the window! (lot less naughty people then I guess!)
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:07 pm
by Mogwai
I was right. they turned up as soon as the new ones arrived
http://www.mmoc.org.uk/index.php?name=P ... c&start=15
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:18 pm
by Peetee
There are "FP" and "FS" keys - did they send the correct ones?
The number on the new key is correct, but it doesn't fit or match the original in any way.
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:36 pm
by mike.perry
Have a word with your local locksmith. He might be able to identify the new keys which will give you more ammunition when you tackle the trader.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:11 am
by bmcecosse
Was the barrel key not always a different number to the doors/boot keys?
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:52 am
by MarkyB
Don't think so, my key fits door, boot and ignition.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:56 am
by IaininTenbury
Original key was riveted to a loop of leather, (I think the same colour as the interior of the car)so that the key could be rotated on the rivet and tucked inside the leather fob, if that makes sense. Seen a few cars still with the original key like this, so that would point to one single key for all locks.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:58 am
by mike.perry
My Series MM has the same key, FA series, for ignition, driver's door, and boot. The passenger door was not fitted with a key lock.
My 68 Traveller has a different key for the back doors which is not listed on the Heritage Certificate so it may have been changed.
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:06 am
by ASL642
Originally I believe there was only one key - fitted all locks on the car.
I've got 4 now - ignition, door passenger door and rear doors - fortunately they're all a different shape so I know which I need in the dark!

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:43 pm
by stevey
yep only one key for all doors etc.
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:46 pm
by Vikki
ive got different keys for mine but having no interior light i quite often use the wrong one in the dark... they usually all work anyway

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:45 pm
by MarkyB
Original key was riveted to a loop of leather
Anyone got a picture of this arrangement?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:53 pm
by Peetee
Well I still have no landline so the mystery remains. An original numbered key which in no way resembles it's identically numbered replacement.
Does anyone know if the numbers are stamped on them by the same process that cuts the keys?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:25 pm
by LouiseM
The original wilmott breedon keys supplied with the car will have had the numbers stamped on at the same time as being cut. ‘New’ replacement keys will just have the number stamped on after cutting.
There’s quite a few ‘original’ keys available cheaply on e-bay though. Just search for your key number and you may get lucky.
Original key was riveted to a loop of leather
Anyone got a picture of this arrangement?
There's a photo of an original key fob on page 87 of Ray Newell's 'Original Morris Minor' book.
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:32 pm
by Cam
Defintely one key.
My everyday (1963) car has one FS key for both doors, boot & ignition
My '49 lowlight has one MRN key for drivers door, boot & ignition (no barrel on passenger door).
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:51 am
by aupickup
i have one key for all locks, boot and ignition
wilmot breedon key
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:52 pm
by mike.perry
Does the one key include Travellers and vans?
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:04 pm
by aupickup
on my gpo van it did