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Diff identifying

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:56 am
by listerjones
Hi is there any serial numbers etc that identifies the moggy diffs as to what they are. We got two diffs with our purchase but don't know what they are. the engines were 948 and a 1098.

Any ideas or advice please cheers.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:11 am
by PSL184
The ratio's should be stamped on the case or diff carrier - Something like 9/41 - This will give you the ratio and hence which car they were fitted to. 1098's had a 4.22:1 diff and 948's had a 4.55:1

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:33 am
by RobThomas
If you have the nose of the diff facing you, the stamped number is at 1/2 past 12 position, about 1 inch forwards of the flange that has the bolt holes. Large digits about 1/4 tall.

Alternatively, count the number of teeth and divide the big gear by the small gear. (ie: 9 teeth and 41 teeth)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 9:12 am
by mike.perry
The ratio should also be stamped on the crown wheel, at least it is on my diff (10/39)

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:33 am
by listerjones
cheers for that, will look at them on week end. I've been reading that a 3.7 diff from a riley 1500 fits, would like to look at that in more detail.

Any difference between the original diffs besides the ratios

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:02 pm
by bmcecosse
Later ones are stronger - and don't have filler plugs! Tricky if the axle casing doesn't have a filler plug either!

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:41 pm
by listerjones
No filler plug?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:57 pm
by mike.perry
Some diffs have the filler plug on the diff, some have it on the axle casing behind the diff. If you have the wrong combination of diffs and axle cases you either have two filler plugs or none at all.
I expect some expert on diffs will be able to tell you where all the filler plugs are.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:57 pm
by PSL184
listerjones wrote:No filler plug?
4.55:1 diffs had a filler plug. Later 4.22:1 diffs do not because it is on the axle casing.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:59 pm
by mike.perry
Out of interest how about 5.375, 3.9 and 3.7?

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:17 pm
by PSL184
mike.perry wrote:Out of interest how about 5.375 3.9 and 3.7?
5.3 on diff. 3.9 & 3.7 on axle casing.....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:28 pm
by listerjones
Right got it, thanks everyone. any one got a 3.7 for sale by any chance....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:20 pm
by PSL184
listerjones wrote:any one got a 3.7 for sale by any chance....
Noooooo :-)

But keep an eye on ebay - they do come up fairly often

3.9's are cheaper and just as acceptable IMHO.....

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:47 pm
by bmcecosse
Not sure if there is an 'exact' Mini speedo to suit the 3.9 diff. It would need to be ~ 1345 tpm.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:59 pm
by MColes
mike.perry wrote:Some diffs have the filler plug on the diff, some have it on the axle casing behind the diff. If you have the wrong combination of diffs and axle cases you either have two filler plugs or none at all.
I have the problem of no filler plug :roll:

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:22 pm
by mike.perry
Shouldn't you have the Morris axle in the early Series II? Or have you had an engine transpant?

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:29 am
by PSL184
bmcecosse wrote:Not sure if there is an 'exact' Mini speedo to suit the 3.9 diff. It would need to be ~ 1345 tpm.
I think mine is 1350 but I'd have to check that....

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:47 pm
by mike.perry
I haven't done enough research on Mini speedos yet. Only got the 1248 and 1376. There were a lot of different ratio diffs on the Coopers etc.
There are 3.444, 3.647, 3.765, 3.938, 4.133, 4.267 & 4.35 to choose from, all with different speedo TPM

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:08 pm
by bmcecosse
The ratios beginning with '4' (and the 3.9) were never fitted to Minis as standard - these are competition ratios only. There is also a 3.1 and a 2.9 - fitted to late model cars - but not with centre 'Minor' type speedos.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:15 pm
by mike.perry
That reduces the options then.