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My cars don't like barbeques!!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:41 pm
by Sidney'61
Yesterday I set off to go to the Northants branch meeting, this month being the annual branch barbeque, shortly after I left the house the car ground to a halt, of course the guilty culprit being the fuel pump, I hit it a few times to limp the car home, then went in the modern.
Looking back, this is my second break down in just over two years of minor ownership, the previous one being in the other minor when I got an air lock in the tank on the way home from the branch barbeque in the first week of July last year http://mmoc.org.uk/index.php?name=PNphp ... ic&t=20924

Is it just a strange coincidence or do my cars really not like barbeques? :o :roll:

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:30 pm
by andrew.searston
looks like they dont like barbeques. i think its true that moggys have a personality of their own or their just evil and break down on you when you lest expect it..
i know i dont like this heat
great weather for painting andy!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:35 pm
by Judge
Shhhhh, we're having a barbeque on MOT-UK.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:56 pm
by Kevin
Dont tell anyone what day or when you are having it Bill that will solve the problem.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:57 pm
by Judge
Good thinking Kevin.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:15 pm
by PSL184
Andy, didn't you also break down momentarily last week - the fuel pump was giving you a warning then which you ignored :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:24 pm
by MColes
Mine doesn't like full tanks of petrol. The time the engine went and also the time the gearbox went it had a full tank of petrol.

Luckily he didn't complain about having a full tank to go to the national :)

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:28 pm
by Sidney'61
Aye, but talking to several people at the national about it some blamed the fuel pipe and some blamed the carb! I was led to believe the pump wasn't at fault!

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:35 pm
by PSL184
You can still get fuel vaporisation (indicating carb trouble) if the pump is not pumping at full power - esp in the heat we have at the moment. The less fuel in the pipe means it gets hotter! As you have the 1275 why not fit a lift pump. In my opinion (and others may disagree) they are more reliable and less prone to failure....

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:39 pm
by Sidney'61
Well I've cleaned the contacts etc. and i'll be replacing the pipe anyway.
PSL184 wrote:As you have the 1275 why not fit a lift pump. In my opinion (and others may disagree) they are more reliable and less prone to failure....
How difficult would that be to do? and more importantly, how much will it cost me? :-?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:41 pm
by PSL184
Easy to do and would cost you only the price of a lift pump (scrapyard) and a length of fuel hose...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:42 pm
by Peetee
Since the modifications to my 1275 I might have to concider one of those myself. Where would I get hold of one?

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:16 pm
by alex_holden
Peetee wrote:Since the modifications to my 1275 I might have to concider one of those myself. Where would I get hold of one?
Search eBay for "mini fuel pump". I suspect you may need a spacer block as well as the pump...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:24 pm
by Sidney'61

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:29 pm
by PSL184
Yep

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:16 pm
by WPR678B
Sidney'61 wrote:
PSL184 wrote:As you have the 1275 why not fit a lift pump. In my opinion (and others may disagree) they are more reliable and less prone to failure....
How difficult would that be to do? and more importantly, how much will it cost me? :-?
I had a lift pump fitted to my 1275 and had to remove it when i fitted my 3 branch manifold as there was no good way of piping it up without one of the pipes being VERY close to the exhaust pipe! Seeing as the set up in Andy's car is very similar to mine for some reason :oops: then i guess the same problems would be met! :roll:

Yes they are a good and reliable pump but you will lose your option of a secret fuel pump switch as well! :wink:
Gone back to a good old SU now :D

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:18 pm
by PSL184
I have the same set up Carlo and don't have any probs with pipe routing - just needs a little thought. I'll stick some pics up at the weekend if I remember or if someone reminds me...

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:22 pm
by WPR678B
Maybe it was just the angle of the ports on the pump i had then that were making things difficult? I seem to remember the originals could be swivelled to face in any direction! 8)

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:39 pm
by Kevin
Dont forget the 1.3 Marina pump fits as well, but if you have clearance issues a Facet Pump can always be plumbed in at the rear end of the car.

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:43 pm
by PSL184
"I seem to remember the originals could be swivelled to face in any direction! f"

Yes, true - maybe that's how I got round it. I can't remember right now but I will look in daylight...