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wax oil treatment

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:16 pm
by docgibbons
i've had a quote from charles ware for £110 plus vat for wax oil injections, (not strictly wax oil but something called Tectryl from Valvoline) and £60 plus vat for wire brushing and oil spraying the underside. Is this good value? And is it recommended to do this regularly? My morris is in good nick at the moment, so any thoughts on whether to go ahead and book this?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:28 pm
by andrew.searston
ive got to wax oil my car this year. all ive done is bought some waxoil from halfords 5litre container for 20 quid and a spray gun for a fiver not back. you save your self alot of money doing it your self.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm
by docgibbons
i didn't realise you could get hold of this stuff and do it yourself. is is straightforward? ie, do you need to jack up the car or use a ramp? and how do you know where to inject the oil? would it be in the owners' handbook somewhere?

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:43 pm
by aupickup
yep do it yourself, waste of money paying someone like CW to do it

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:46 pm
by Peetee
Doing the underside yourself is easy - if a bit messy. However any protection this gives comes second in importance to the cavity protection and that is far more difficult without full knowledge and tooling.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:56 pm
by sixdogsisback
You will find the Waxoyl gets all over the place and it's difficult to get off clothes, especially the black variety. I avoid putting contaminated clothes in the washing machine as it tends then to contaminate other clothes which you wash. I keep some "Waxoyl Clothes and overalls" in a large plastic bag on a hook in the garage, specially for the job and don't wash them. Oh and if you have trouble with mice getting into bags of rags, fix hooks up in the rafters and hang tied up bags from the hooks. It does the trick.

Happy waxoyling!

Clive.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:59 pm
by charlie_morris_minor
it is not that hard just very very messy..

to do the cavities you will need a long tube which attaches to the wax oil gun, you block the tube and put a few pin holes in the pipe before the blockage so that the wax oil squirts in all directions. then drill a small hole in the a post / b post etc and push the plastic pipe in all the way. then simply squirt the wax oil and slowly remove the plastic tubing turning as you go so that the wax oils goes eveywhere.

take your sill finishers off and pour / paint wax oil on to your sills.

your box sections hopefully will have holes to allow water out so you can use them as entry points for the tubing. when everything has dried off push a bit of wire up the box section holes to clear them out in case they became blocked by wax oil..

it is easier to do the job at this time of year when the wax oil can be warmed by leaving it in the sun for 30 minutes it becomes hot and therefore liquid.

tip
do not do it on your parents recently recovered drive as it tends to leave blobs of wax oil everywhere

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:01 pm
by andrew.searston
its a strate forward job just a bit messy. all you need to do is inject it in to cross menbers , into doors and where ever you can realy.

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 6:26 pm
by millerman
To make it easy get a Schutz gun and a small compressor to power it this a much more efficient and cleaner process than using the waxoil 'pump'.

Ideally holes need drilling in strategic positions to inject the waxoil and then blanked off with a grommet

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:31 pm
by aupickup
you can use a door hing bolt taken out to get to that part of the car

on a 2 door take out the rear quarter panel and you can get all the way to the b post and lower quarter panel

there will be predrilled holes in various parts of the chassis and front chassis legs to get waxoil in

Wax oil treatment

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:11 pm
by Declan_Burns
Excellent tip aupickup with the hinge bolt.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:03 am
by docgibbons
thanks for all the tips, much appreciated. on reflection, i think i've at least discovered it's not a job i feel confident about doing, so i'll get it booked in. any thoughts on the 2nd process offered by charles ware (see below) as additional protection. worth doing?


While that process deals with the internal box sections we also recommend that the underside should be wire brushed and oil sprayed – this costs an additional £59.50 plus VAT

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:07 am
by alex_holden
They're not talking about spraying the underside with used engine oil are they? I think a proper waxoyl-type treatment would be better and much less messy when you need to work under the car.

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:59 pm
by Sidney'61
alex_holden wrote:They're not talking about spraying the underside with used engine oil are they? I think a proper waxoyl-type treatment would be better and much less messy when you need to work under the car.
Remember the engine oil treatment is very dangerous aswell, it will wash off in the wet and make the road more slippery for bikes and motorbikes :-?

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:39 pm
by docgibbons
well, i think so. you can see from their message (in the brown type) what they do to the underside. you'd have thought being a MM specialist they know what they're doing, but i have a chum in leicestershire who has his moggie waxoiled regularly, by another Mog specialist garage Minorite, and he's never been offered underneath spraying, or told he needed it. maybe some members have had it done, and could comment.