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quarter lights

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:25 pm
by phil63
Hi . I have just assembled a door from bits , after welding it. I have refitted the rubbers and the quarter light and now found I have missed out the metal pivot and bush bit that bolts to the frame . Can I fit this without dissmantling the frame again ? I dont seem to be able to remove the spare one I have in a doner door with out total dissmantling as it's too wide to come out upwards . Any one else had this problem , just shows how carefull you must be when removing bits !!!!!!
regards Phil

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:59 pm
by Kevin
I am sure the quaterlights can be taken out and replaced without completly stripping the door I just cant remember how.

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:00 pm
by alainmoran
Yes, there are two screws which hold the 'hook' (its more of a hole really) at the top onto the quarterlight, remove these and you can slide the lower pin into its hole.

Then you need to push down fairly hard on the quarterlight so that it seats properly into the hole, you can then hook the bit you unscrewed back onto the pin its sits on, and then screw it back onto the quarterlight (this is the difficult bit ... I found it helpful to twist the quarterlight past where it would normally open to ... which is why you need to push down fairly hard!)

How you go about replacing the catch though is anybody's guess ... I'm currently using a jubilee clip on mine!

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:40 pm
by Gareth
You can replace the catch by buying a new pin... it's a couple of pounds, but be careful when you bash the end over. You probably have to heat it, or something, and I didn't. I used an eyelet punch, and it cracked a bit - can't see it though, and it hasn't fallen off yet...

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 6:46 pm
by rayofleamington
Yes, there are two screws which hold the 'hook' (its more of a hole really) at the top onto the quarterlight, remove these and you can slide the lower pin into its hole.

Then you need to push down fairly hard on the quarterlight so that it seats properly into the hole, you can then hook the bit you unscrewed back onto the pin its sits on, and then screw it back onto the quarterlight (this is the difficult bit ... I found it helpful to twist the quarterlight past where it would normally open to ... which is why you need to push down fairly hard!)
It can be blumming fiddly - I did mine,and found that the new quarterlights had a different top hinge!
So make sure you keep the top hinges that come with the frames.

It would probably help to have a second pair of hands - I didn't.
One quarterlight tok 2 minutes - the other took 30 mins :roll:

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:53 pm
by alainmoran
and it cracked a bit
Do you mean the glass?

quater lights

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:45 pm
by phil63
Ah .no its not the top hinge ( though that was difficult ) its the bottom pivot . It's two loose blocks with a brass bush in the middle held in woth two screws in the bottom of the fram . Can I get them in now with out taking the frame out again ? Or just forget it and let it pivot in the hole in the rubber.

Regards Phil

Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 5:26 pm
by alainmoran
Hmm ... that's all mine do ... pivot in the rubber.

All my quarterlights have is a pin at the bottom which sits into a hole in the main body of the window-frame, and a hole at the top which locates against a pin which is part of the main body of the window frame.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:19 am
by fweddy
Have you tried undoing the screws, taking out the brass bush and sliding one block forward and the other backward and lifting them out one at a time?

I'm not really sure what I'm talking about as i'm not looking at one right now but from memory that may work?

(Does any one have their computer sitting in their shed by their Morrie for quick reference? Sounds like a good idea - but when my sheds down the other end of the farmlet it mightn't work too well!)

I'm about to get to the point of fitting the bits to the doors in my resto but have some more painting to do yet.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:24 am
by Kevin
but when my sheds down the other end of the farmlet it mightn't work too well!)
Sounds like you need Bluetooth technology

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 11:39 am
by alainmoran
Hmm ... 802.11b more like ... bluetooth only has a radius of a few metres.

quarter lights

Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:57 pm
by phil63
no you can't take the bush out because it.s flanged at the bottom and you can't slide the one piece past the other because of the bush . When you remove the rubber surrounding the quarter light it sits in the window frame and there seems no way of removing it except my lifting the frame again and we all know what a job that is !!!. So it.s a warning to anyone refitting the glass and frame ... don't forget to fit the blocks and bush before bolting it down . A good idea to stuff rag in the door , I had to remove mine again to tip it upside dpwn to get all the bits out , including the socket I used to tighten the nuts under the frame!!Phil