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Two questions in one posting

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:17 pm
by purplebargeken
:D

First question: can I swap the ordinary black speedo from the '69 saloon for a nice gold faced one from an older car?

Second question: the interior light unit in the car has virtually fallen apart. Are they easily available or is there a modification that would enable me to fit another from some other car? If so, what is the modification?

Ok, I suppose that could be 3 questions. Sorry :lol: :lol:

Cheers

Ken

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:24 pm
by ASL642
Yes you can swap a black faced speedo for a gold one but it must be a 1098 speedo. Interior light units are available new from morris suppliers. Never fitted one from another car so can't help you with that question.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:04 pm
by Gareth
The 1098cc engine came in around 1962, so you'd need to find a speedo from a car built between 1962-4.

There was a question on here a loooooong time ago about the model numbers of the speedometers - the upshot was that the 1098 had a different final letter, I think. A search might give you the answer.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 5:56 pm
by rayofleamington
interior lights are readily available new - I last bought one about 5 years ago which was ok - so hopefully the current stock is still ok (a lot of parts these days are not worth buying)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:58 pm
by bmcecosse
You need to compare the 'tpm' figure on the old speedo - with the new. It's the 4 digit number usually near the mileometer read-out. For a 4.22 diff (standard on 1098 engine) you need a speedo with 1408 tpm. I suspect that may be difficult in 'gold' !

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:57 pm
by PSL184
Early 1098's had gold speedo's and 4.22 diff's - I have one somewhere in the garage. I'll check the tpm's and report back.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:17 pm
by PSL184
Checked it and it is 1504 tpm....

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:10 pm
by Matt
you may need the earlier fuel tank sender too ;)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:14 pm
by PSL184
Matt wrote:you may need the earlier fuel tank sender too ;)
Yep, I guess you would as the gauge is not ballasted on the gold face speedo's

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:57 pm
by purplebargeken
Probably better off just sticking with what I have then. Just thought it would look quite cool though.

Thanks for the info about both things :D

Cheers

Ken

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:22 am
by PSL184
You could, of course, use the black fuel gauge you already have and swap the voltage reg over to the gold faced speedo.....

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:33 am
by purplebargeken
Easy job to do that? I presume the side fixings are the same, access via two screws through the cubby holes, speedo drive the same?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:11 am
by PSL184
Yes Ken - straight swap for the speedo then just swap fuel gauge and fit voltage reg. I've not tried it myself but it "might" be possible to strip the fuel gauge and use the gold backing on the original black one?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:22 pm
by purplebargeken
Hmm. Cheers for that. I'll give it a go.

Thanks

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:53 pm
by Mogwai
Ive done the mod with the speedo but the other way round. there is a slight difference in the mounting points between the early & late ones due to the positions of the warning lights changing which moves the late mounts a bit further apart , shouldn't be too difficult to modify it though other than that it fitted ok

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:07 pm
by mike.perry
Checked it and it is 1504 tpm....
1504 is a 4.55 (948) speedo. Max speed 80mph
I posted a chart of different speedos somewhere on the messageboard.

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:44 pm
by PSL184
Well with 155/80 14's and a 4.22 diff it reads bang on to my sat nav - I guess the discrepancy is removed by fitting the wrong speedo then :-)

Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:16 pm
by mike.perry
Meethinks that Morris Minor speedos have a slightly excessive error built in. My 4.22 speedo is spot on with a 3.9 diff.
Whatever speedo is fitted it seems to be worth checking it against a sat nav.