Advise on closing Panel side to floor on traveller

Post by **malpad** » Sun May 17, 2009 3:16 pm

Hi There,

Wondering would anyone have some pictures for me to look at, or some advise as to how the closing panel side to floor for a Traveller attaches please.
Basically this is the part that the timber attaches to at floor level.
It was completely rusted away into powder and we are none the wiser. cannot seem to find any reference to this panel in the Restoration manual.
Anyone got any snaps to share. Thanks

Post by **jonathon** » Sun May 17, 2009 4:52 pm

Is this the part you mean

Post by **malpad** » Sun May 17, 2009 6:34 pm

Thanks for your reply. That looks like the boxing plate extension. The part I am looking for is underneath this. running from the b post to the wheel arch. it is attached to the timber with screws. The part is called closing panel side to floor for a traveller.

Post by **taupe** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:39 pm

I have a picture of the Hadrian version which I will scan and upload later.

It looks fairly different to the one in the Body Service Parts List which I will also post..

Need to scan them first.

I would be interested if anyone has a photo of an original - even tatty/rusted away.

Essentially its a long angled section which screws directly to the underside of the timber and is welded along the sill bottom seam.

Probably best to trial fit the timber then mark or clamp in position before welding.

Post by **taupe** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:55 pm

On the Hadrian list its in the small detail bottom left

Post by **malpad** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:10 pm

Thanks for that. Was looking for any photos of finished if possible. But thats a great list of part and diagrams .

I have some images of the rusted out area and of the timber. can email them onto you if you want. have thousands of pictures of work in progress and have not got round to setting up a photo link yet. not sure how to link images as you did to this message board.
Thanks for your help and advise.

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:32 pm

It just screws on to the timber - with a thick layer of dum-dum between timber and panel. It doesn't attach to anything else - it's just a water shield. Although my MOT garage did want me to weld it to the timber first time they saw it!!!!!!!

Post by **taupe** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:01 am

I see that.

It would explain why its shown on a body page with other bolt on bits!

would there be any harm if welded on for extra strength in this area?

Post by **rich-legg** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:13 am

This is a really helpfull thread!

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon May 18, 2009 10:31 pm

Difficult to weld to timber!

Post by **Longdog** » Tue May 19, 2009 5:45 am

It is useful to have the facility to remove this plate for spraying anti rust treatment into this area in future if you have the wood fitted it may not be a good idea to weld so close.The structural integrity of the car can cope.

Post by **pegasus** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:59 pm

Hi
is this the part you mean?
I have yet to fit it along with the spring hanger (waiting for the bad weather to pass), so i have shown the pictures as they are meant to go together.
Hope this helps
Mark

Post by **taupe** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:38 pm

Thats really helpfull

The question is should it be welded along the long seam and to the rear mudguard?

My suspicion is that it should be as the two door has a section here as part of the undersill.

On my traveller it had been replaced both sides and was screwed to the long edge and into the timber with self tap screws.

As longdog says the area is probably strong enough without it welded in and this would allow access to the timber later.

I dont quite understand BMCs comment about welding to timber? You would surely weld it in before fitting the timber.

Im looking at Rich Leggs pics which looks like the original panel and appears to have been welded in.

Taupe

Post by **rich-legg** » Tue May 19, 2009 9:50 pm

I didn't get a chance to take any photos today, sorry - will try tomorrow.

I didn't take any screws out from this section before removing the wood, I took the 3 bolts out on the forward wood section & roof bolts, and the rear bolts, along with the inner wing screws, it then came off.
I'll have a good look tomorrow and see if there is any metle still attached to the wood.

Post by **rich-legg** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:36 pm

Just found this on the net, if it's any help

Post by **bmcecosse** » Wed May 20, 2009 8:02 pm

There is no point welding it to the metal - as you obviously can't weld it to the timber! It's intended ONLY as a splash cover for the undersurface of the timber - screw it on after applying a thick layer of dum-dum.

Post by **taupe** » Wed May 20, 2009 9:37 pm

Post by **rich-legg** » Fri May 22, 2009 9:12 am

Probably don't these now after what bmcecosse has said, but here they are anyway.

Post by **chickenjohn** » Fri May 22, 2009 12:37 pm

While I hate to disagree with BMC ecosse as he is usually correct- this piece should be welded to the flange of the spring hanger plate. Its a structural piece as the bottom of the lower timber step attaches to the traveller floor pan at this point- via three big screws.

Plug weld the turned over flange of this panel to the flange at the edge of the spring hanger plate. Then protect with good paint and lots of underbody wax!

Post by **rich-legg** » Fri May 22, 2009 1:45 pm

chickenjohn wrote:While I hate to disagree with BMC ecosse as he is usually correct- this piece should be welded to the flange of the spring hanger plate. Its a structural piece as the bottom of the lower timber step attaches to the traveller floor pan at this point- via three big screws.

Plug weld the turned over flange of this panel to the flange at the edge of the spring hanger plate. Then protect with good paint and lots of underbody wax!

Ah that's what mine is like, but thought maybe it was fitted & welded later.