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propshafts - Escort Axle
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:28 pm
by d_harris
Put it here cos someone is BOUND to know
It seems I am going to need to have a custom propshaft made up. I have a standard 1098 'box and I'm going to an escort rear axle.
What details will I need for the company making the shaft?
Thanky
Re: propshafts - Escort Axle
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:56 pm
by WPR678B
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:39 pm
by d_harris
Well yeah... Although my credit cards not going to be much use. Don't think I have a high enough limit
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:15 pm
by jonathon
Measure from the rearmost part of the gearbox casing near the output shaft to the front face of the diff flange. You will need to state which flange you have ie large diameter which is threaded or the smaller one with no thread. They will work out the 'free play'.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:46 pm
by callyspoy
dad got a quote from one place that was something like £130, i think that's bloody good value for money for a specialist part.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:13 pm
by jonathon
That's what we pay trade at Dave Mac
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:28 pm
by callyspoy
yeah, it seems a good price to me...and i know A LOT about cars...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:39 pm
by d_harris
Thats a cracking Deal.
I Guess no-one actually knows the distance off the top of their heads then
I don't paticularly want to fit the axle and leave the car sitting whilst I wait for a propshaft!
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:49 pm
by jonathon
The prop will only take 2 days from Dave Mac. You cannot guess the length of the prop or use anothers data. Far better to do your own, then you know it'll be right.
Not a bad price for the axle Dan, if selling the 3.54 diff let me know, I have a 4.1, but its an LSD version = mucho dosh
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:04 pm
by d_harris
If its £130 Trade then I dread to think what it will cost normally
Think I'll have to bite the bullet on this one, but might have to wait a few months. Oh and Jonathon, I'm sure you will know, it was sold as a Mexico axle - how can I tell if thats true?
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:11 pm
by jonathon
It'll have a 3.54 diff, everything else is the same across the range except for the RS 2000.
We get very little discount on these items and usually pass them on with very little profit margin especially if part of a full instalation. Expect £135 ish retail, maybe evenless.
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:33 pm
by d_harris
Its going to stretch my finances a fair old way! I've spent too much already on the car this month
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 11:35 pm
by d_harris
Its going to stretch my finances a fair old way! I've spent too much already on the car this month and I only get to work on it at the moment when I visit the parents, so it will be out of action for at least a week when the new axle goes on regardless.
Think I may have to wait till after the national
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:57 pm
by Innovator
See my reply in the Mechanical section.
In brief: Use the Minor prop, buy a new flange to suit the diff and shorten the prop.
£130 seems quite a lot for a flange UJ, shorten and balance, unless I am way out of touch for current prop prices.
Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:20 pm
by jonathon
The £130 is for a brand new propshaft , not a re hashed Minor one.
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:27 am
by bmcecosse
Is all this hassle/loss of use of car/expense etc really worth it ?? What was wrong with the Minor axle ????
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:03 am
by bigginger
Well, for one thing it has bigger and better brakes, just the same as the mod you so love.
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 10:46 am
by plastic_orange
bmcecosse wrote:Is all this hassle/loss of use of car/expense etc really worth it ?? What was wrong with the Minor axle ????
Minor axle can't really cope with much increase in power - both diffs and halfshafts. In fact I'd suggest they are marginal if you are a spirited driver with a 1098. Fit a Ford axle, and whilst it may cost a bit, you then have reliability.
Incidentally, I thought the Mexico was 3.7, and it was the RS 2000's that were 3.5 (from distant memory though).
Pete
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 6:06 pm
by charlie_morris_minor
I would agree with you pete about the strength of eh moggy axle but that argument falls down a bit when the power is put through a 1098 box.
Given the cost of the prop I would have done the axle and gearbox at the same time to give better brakes, better reliability etc but at the cost of only one prop shaft.
But it is not my car and we all do things in our own ways, mostly just for the fun of it and if Dan wants to do it this way, go for it is all I can say
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 7:48 pm
by d_harris
bmcecosse wrote:Is all this hassle/loss of use of car/expense etc really worth it ?? What was wrong with the Minor axle ????
One of the main reasons is for Ford PCD all round (I'm getting Ford discs up front very soon) I don't fancy having a mix of PCDs and therefore having to carry 2 spare wheels. This came up at what I consider to be a pretty decent price. It also means that I can run the wheels I want to!
The other thing is that in the longer term I am planning some pretty decent power increases which the minor axle simply won't be able to handle. Although I am keeping the 1098 for a while its already been slightly warmed over and I'm intending to get a bit more out of it yet. at £130 ish getting a propshaft made up is not the end of the world although some budgeting is required. I'm hoping that if I can get a decent midget lump then I can still use the same box and shaft.
Charlie, I don't have a standard 1098 box on, I am currently running a 1275 Midget box, slightly shorter ratios and a bit tougher.
