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Stripping paint

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 8:42 pm
by Dizzi141
What is the best way of removing the paint from my Mog? I want to strip all the paint to paint her pink. So how do you do it? Lol, once again I must plead ignorance.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:12 am
by edd
You can get the whole car shotblasted. Romove each layer withb an electric/air sander. Or use paint stripper. If you use stripper make shure that all traces are removed before the paint is put on ass it will come straigt off!! There may be other ways but im not to shure.

As for the best? depends on how much time/money i spose.

I have still to do this on mine so if anyone has a prefered method?

Cheers

Edd

Edd

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 1:39 pm
by Cam
If you are going for a 'cheap' paint job then there is no need to remove the existing paint. Just flat it with wet and dry paper to give a 'key' then spray the primer over the top. It also adds a bit of protection.

The only thing to watch is paint compatability. I think you can't put cellulose on top of synthetic, so if yours is painted with synthetic then you will have to apply a bar coat first or a 2-pack primer as this acts as a good bar coat. Then you can spray your top coat. Unless you are thinking of using 2-pack top coat in which case I think you will be OK

2 pack

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:35 pm
by Willie
I may be wrong but I understood that 2 pack can only
be applied under strict conditions, i.e. it is lethal??

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:58 pm
by brixtonmorris
dont strip the paint. paint over the good parts. only the parts that need repair needs to be striped. if its still on there it must be good. some of that metal has never been exposed to air since morris laid the paint on. now we are going to remove it with paint stripper and then wash it in water, unnessary work and more importantly allowing oxidisation to take place. it will take place even over night. if a colour change is required just use primer all over, mix a small amount of pink with the primer to help it on its way. key the original paint with 600 wet/dry, sand the primer with 800grit if its painted in 2pac before it may be a little more complicated.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 7:25 pm
by rayofleamington
I may be wrong but I understood that 2 pack can only
be applied under strict conditions, i.e. it is lethal??
Yes 2-pack has killed a nuimber of DIY'ers, and also a couple of misguided professionals - it needs some care!

I completely agree with the benefit of leaving the existing paint on if possible.
A bare metal respray adds a huge amount more work, and can cause nasty side effects around the window rubbers if it's done by someone inexperienced. Also I've seen a few bare-metal resprayed cars where the lead loading got sanding so the look of the car at the rear is completely spoiled.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:14 pm
by Robins
Yes beware of 2-pak it has cyanide (is that how you spell it?). It is for profesional use only, with special breathing gear and spray booths with filters and such like.

I have just done a bare metal respray, not cheap. Use a Automotive paint stripper, it's stronger than standard stuff. Then I used a good quality Etch primer followed by a quality normal primer, I lost count how many. Then I applied about 20 litres of cellulose top coat (yes 20), flatting between, then flatted it with 1500 grade wet-n-dry, then used cutting compound and finaly an A-grade polish for a limosine finish. See the reflection in my door on my signature pic. Unfortunatley you can't see the shine in white like you can black. Not a quick job and deffinatley not easy.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:32 am
by Dizzi141
The paint I'm putting on will be metallic anyway so it will help in the final polish i would have thought?
THat's good if I don't need to strip it all off but what sort of primer should I use because I have been reading here about different paints reacting to each other.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:35 pm
by brixtonmorris
theres no need to strip it. matallic will almost certainly be 2pac,, base coat with flakes mixed in. then coated with a laquer. the laquer will be the part that will be polished to give the shine. the 2 pac primer filler will sit nicly on that paint youve got there. key it well and remove any flaky paint. it will look great