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Security..

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:33 pm
by CeeLou
What's the best sort of security device? I know the crooks themselves say the stoplock bar things are so easy to get off that they are worthless - anyone got any tips for a good'un?
Thanks :-)
CeeLou

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:41 pm
by Sidney'61
A secret fuel pump switch is a good starting point for security, if the car is stolen it could still driven off but will effectively run out of petrol a few yards down the road...

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:46 pm
by mrmorrisminor
Yes I second that!! I 'tested' mine....I left it off by mistake, got to the end of the road....stranded.... until I worked out that I'd been rather silly!! Doh!

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:51 pm
by toginthemog
Hi Ceelou You will get loads of advice and we have just had some threads on this do all you think from the advice you get but get someone if you cant do it yourself to fit a secret switch or another morris ignition switch somewhere out of site and get it connected to the power side of your fuel pump if you are unlucky to get someone trying to steal the car they will get it going but it will only go as far as the fuel inside the carb will fuel the engine max 100yds now they are on the road broken down and more likley to get alot of attention and noticed

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:53 pm
by toginthemog
sidney and mrmorrisminor were quicker than me but I will 3rd it

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:21 am
by PSL184
I agree with the above but I would also advise on a steering lock of some sort to give a visable deterrant also - It might just mean the oppourtunist thief leaves it alone....

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:49 am
by leyther8008
One of the best I,ve seen is a clamp that goes around the clutch pedal shaft stopping the pedal being pushed down, with the minors pedal going 'down' into the floor its very effective and stops the thief selecting gears,
I also had one years ago on an Escort I bought that was a key operated valve that 'locked' pressure in the brake lines, ie you pressed the brake pedal when stopped and then locked the switch (at the side of the gear level I recall) and it locked all four brakes on solid. I dont recall ever seeing one since, but I know drag racers use an electric solenoid version to lock the front brakes on to make burnouts easier called a linelocker, should be easy enough to do its only plumbing.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:04 am
by stevey
the simplest is just remove the rotor arm, simple and affective. Wont stop them breaking in but will stop them making off.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:04 am
by CeeLou
I might just make my fiance sleep in it - he should scare them off!

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:15 pm
by CeeLou
how would I go about getting a fuel pump switch installed? I am blonde so be gentle with me!

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:35 pm
by PSL184
I'll send you an email later Claire - It's not a good idea to put it on here - you don't know who is reading it ;-)

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:58 pm
by CeeLou
Thanks Rich although I must say you give me WAY too much credit in the mechanic department!!!! But your instructions were great so I am sure I'll figure it out with some help :-)
CeeLou

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:32 pm
by bmcecosse
Large hungry dog in the car is probably the best security!
I'm sure your fiancee will manage the fuel pump switch ok. It is the best way to prevent theft - certainly saved my first Minor (many many moons ago) when I came out from the house - car gone !! Ahh - there it is - abandoned 100 yds down the road when the fuel ran out. Thief has no idea why the car has stopped - and they are very unlikely to spend time troubling shooting it when they have already moved the car. Risk is they may of course trash the car on the spot!

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:49 pm
by jaekl
The short coming of the fuel pump switch is the pump is so easy to jump. Especially, if they are out to steal a Moggy, then they are expecting the clicks. Better would be a switch that would need to be reset after the first current draw.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:52 pm
by bmcecosse
Most thefts are by neds - who have no idea about SU pump etc. You will never defeat a 'professional' thief - who will even have a spare rotor arm with him !

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:44 pm
by alex_holden
bmcecosse wrote:You will never defeat a 'professional' thief - who will even have a spare rotor arm with him !
Or a big truck with a winch... :-?

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:01 pm
by Kevin
jaekl wrote:The short coming of the fuel pump switch is the pump is so easy to jump. Especially, if they are out to steal a Moggy, then they are expecting the clicks. Better would be a switch that would need to be reset after the first current draw.

Well you are unlikely to stop a professional thief but the switch has saved many moggie owners from theft in the UK and not many car thief carry spare wire with them.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:28 pm
by Helenginger
Hi PSL....

I'd like to have ago at the fuel pump switch, would you mind sending me your instructional email please? :wink:

Thanks lots,

Tom

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:24 pm
by PSL184
Hi Tom, send me a pm with your email addy and I'll wizz it across to you :-)

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:10 am
by CeeLou
Hi ya,
If all goes to plan I should be a proud Moggie owner on Saturday! I am a complete blonde when it comes to cars - although hoping to change this somewhat and my fiance is a gadget whizz-kid rather than mechanical is there anyone in the London area who know's how to fit a fuel pump switch who can do it and teach me how at the same time - obviously willing to pay time/expenses etc...
Send me a PM....
CeeLou