Morris Minor Owners Club

i'm replacing my timber built garage with a brick one i don't suppose anyone know's the max size i can build without permission as i want to squeez my two mogs in it .

Not sure on size regs but my dad built his normal size and a year later built the same again on back probably not the way to do it but got away with it for the last 10 years

In Scotland, Building Regulation wise (and assuming a house rather than a flat) you can build up to 30m² in floor area and this will be not require a Building Warrant but if the garage is within 1m of your house, it must then be a minimum of 1m from your property boundary otherwise a Warrant is required.

Planning permission wise, I think it is permitted development up to 24m² but this depends on location and if your house has already been extended, conservation area etc.

Always best to send in a sketch and ask both Building Standards (for Blg Regs) and Planning People to confirm no consent required - always handy if you decide to sell.

I agree with MGF - get the necessary permissions. Saves much grief later if neighbour complains - and when you go to sell in the future! Build it as BIG as you can - you can never have a garage that's TOO big!

This may answer some of your questions.
http://www.doineedplanningpermission.co ... dings.aspx

toginthemog wrote:Not sure on size regs but my dad built his normal size and a year later built the same again on back probably not the way to do it but got away with it for the last 10 years

hello mate thankyou for bringing your morris over for me to see certanly a lot of work gone into it and a real credit to you it realy is lovely, nice to see you as well put a face to the key board hope to see you again,,grandad,,tony

I had planning permission for a new 18' x 9'6" prefab concrete garage turned down due to proposed area it was going to be errected even though I could have build elsewhere on my property without problems.
Managed to win on appeal after presenting additonal information about construction confirming very little timber (facia only) so the fire risk negligable.
What I'm saying is besides permitted size there are also various other aspects you need to comply with that need to be considered to stay within the planning laws so make sure you get proper advice.

Paul H

Planning permission will be required for any size if you knock the old one down and leave an empty plot for any period of time. For some reason you have to build the new building as you knock down the old one.

Even if you can build within your "Permitted building rights" you will still need building regs approval and sign off from the council or you will have hell to pay when you come to sell the property and the smart a***e solicitor acting for your buyer finds out ;-)

Dean wrote:Planning permission will be required for any size if you knock the old one down and leave an empty plot for any period of time. For some reason you have to build the new building as you knock down the old one.

We wanted to take down an old rotton wooden conservatory and replace it with UPVC - Same size, same plot etc. The council said we needed planning permission for this !!!! There is, however a loophole, which allows for "building maintenance" without planning permission. So, we ended up having to replace one section of the conservatory at a time to comply with "maintenace" rather than re-building. Building law is a minefield with so many loopholes and so many councils applying different criteria - Best thing to do is get plans drawn up and ask at the council what "they want" you to have to comply with.....

thanks for the info, heading to the local planning depo: this friday just to make sure i'm doing it the right way i don't fancy buiding something then being told to take it down,

thanks again
stevie.

hang on to the docs you get from the authorities for when you sell... buyer may need to see these early on in the missives (depending on your solicitor)

Look at http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website% ... garage.htm

Basically if it is below 30m square in area you do not require building regulations. Planning permission is not required if it is more than 5m from the house, takes up less than 1/2 the garden and is less than 4m high if it has a pitched roof.

Its not so clear cut with planning permission, depends if the permitted development rights have been removed, if the garage or garden face onto a road - all sorts of odditys - always best to ask them first.

I would seriously doubt you can build without planning permission - I certainly had to go through the hoops with my first house when I added a garage.

I am still sure my advice is correct. I contacted my council and was told the same. The only big question I had was how do you determine a height of 4 metres to the top of the pitch? Where is the measurements from? Building floor? From base of wall?

The answer I eventually received was from the normal lie of the surrounding land.

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/englan ... 33153.html

http://www.diydata.com/planning/planreg ... _rules.php

Stevie,
Hoping this doesn't apply to you but you're not in an "Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty" or "Conservation Area" or living in a "Listed Building" are you? (Scotland might have differnt versions of these terms.) If you are, you'll find the Building Regs much more restrictive. They're not impossible, but they're a REAL PAIN. MikeN.