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starter motor bushs

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:59 pm
by mogatron
hi team,
i bought some new bush's for my starter motor and they are completely different from the old ones. are there different types of motors fitted or have i got a motor from something else fitted? the starter motor i've got is a lucas and model number on it is Lrs101. any ideas?

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:56 pm
by PSL184
mogatron, are we talking "bush's" (bearing type things) or "brushes" (electrical conductors) I'm not been picky but the answers may be different depending on what you are talking about :-)

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:01 pm
by PSL184
These are "brushes"...

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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:30 pm
by mike.perry
As far as I am aware all starter motors for Minors / Minis etc with A Series engines are mechanically the same. If you order brushes for a Morris Minor starter you should get the correct part.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:09 pm
by PSL184
There were 2 types of starter motor used. The M35G and M35J. The arrangement of the brushes and the earthing system were different but I think the brushes were the same, so as Mike says and if they look like the above picture, they shouls be correct. The part number you quoted (different to model number) is for a standard (late model) starter motor.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:42 pm
by mogatron
o yeah sorry i ment brush's. their the brush's i bought but the ones in my starter motor arn't square, there wedge shaped.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:38 am
by PSL184
They should be correct - can you post a pic of your starter motor....?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:42 am
by mogatron
yeah hopefully this'll work<br>Image<br>

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:44 am
by mogatron
this the motor<br>Image<br>

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:03 am
by minor_hickup
You starter motor is the later J type and has different brushes, the wedge shape ones you have pictured. It's probably had a replacement starter motor as this type wasn't originally fitted. Try ringing around suppliers to get the later type of brushes.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:40 am
by bmcecosse
They don't usually ever wear out - the ones shown look ok. Why are you replaceing them ?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:34 pm
by PSL184
You are very lucky mogatron, not many J types about these days :-) The replacements sold are nearly all G type but you still should be able to get brushes for them.. Try your local motor factors? I've never seen inside one so thanks for the pics :-)

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:08 pm
by MarkyB
Try cleaning off all that copper dust, it will make the smoke go to all the wrong places.
When the brushes no longer make contact with the armature (or just before) is the time to replace them.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:09 pm
by bmcecosse
Useful notes here - http://www.lotus-europa.com/manuals/mis ... l/m35j.pdf
Seems you need Lucas 227541 brushes and possibly also 227542 springs.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:01 am
by honda90
If you do a search on ebay you can find repair kits for 35J http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lucas-M35J-Starte ... 240%3A1318 and reconditioned 35j starters to fit minos, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STARTER-MOTOR-M35 ... A1318which is what I got for mine when I got a new one.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:07 pm
by bmcecosse
Well found - looks like a good deal ! Includes bushes and brushes !

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:51 pm
by mogatron
super thanks team. i've just noticed when putting in back on the tron that the main spring at the end has craked. you can see in the photo. is it worth trying to source a new one if its still working?

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:58 pm
by bmcecosse
Would seem wise to ensure reliabilty!

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:04 pm
by mogatron
thought so. does anybody need a set of g type brush's?

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:07 pm
by PSL184
Pound to a penny that I'll need some one day :roll: