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K&N air filter
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:00 pm
by Declan_Burns
Which K&N air filter should be used if I fit the HIF 38 carb with the Metro inlet?
Declan
(DEC 1964H / Formerly HMP 960B)
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:17 pm
by GAS
unless you know what jet you need,i would not bother.Using the filter alone leans the mixture and the engine runs rough...
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:51 pm
by bmcecosse
I got a K&N 'lookalike' from ebay - and it works very well. It must be the conical type - NOT a flat pancake - they are hopeless.
K&N air filter
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:14 pm
by Declan_Burns
Thanks BMC,
Just had a look. I think I know what you mean.
Declan
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:15 pm
by PSL184
I'm using one of those off ebay - no probs and it looks good too

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:48 pm
by 8009STEVE
Argos do a lookalike for 19.95
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:33 pm
by Peetee
If you intend to do these mods and then just run the car after a basic set up I wouldn't bother with a K&N. There are small improvements to be had with one but unless the car is properly set up on a rolling road you are unlikely to notice them. What you will notice however with a K&N is the huge increase in noise!
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:39 pm
by bmcecosse
My engine is warmed over -it would NOT run at all well on the standard air filter casing -even with no element inside! And yes - the flange was opened up to suit the larger carb. Runs fine with the 'lookalike' - yes it's noisy, but not as bad as it was when running open mouth carb.
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:57 pm
by Kevin
Just wondering if the cone filter type of element would fit in the standard housing ?
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:15 pm
by Peetee
I have a K&N cone filter designed to fit to a HIF 38. With the metal plates removed it does fit in the standard 1098 filter casing but it requires a considerable packing spacer to fill out the height. High density foam would do the trick but it would need a hole down the middle. Also note BMC's comment. The standard casing provides poor breathing but can be modified by cutting out a 38mm hole where the trumpet enters.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:03 pm
by bmcecosse
I tried cutting many holes in the casing - and filling it with oiled copper pot scourers - the engine STILL wouldn't run at all well. Strange I know - but I tried lot's of different ways. And I made sure the little air holes at the side of the main carb intake were not blocked off. The cone filter works fine !
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:39 pm
by chrisd87
It must be the conical type - NOT a flat pancake - they are hopeless.
I'm assuming you mean the traditional style thin pancake filters. I've got a thick K&N pancake filter on my tuned 1098 and it works fine. Agreed about the noise though - it does make a racket, especially if you floor the throttle at highish speed.
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:51 pm
by bmcecosse
The flat face of the filter - opposite the carb inlet - should be AT LEAST 1.5 X the diameter of the inlet hole away from the carb face.