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Door repairs
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:18 pm
by edd
Just wondering if you guys can advise me on the best way to go about sorting my doors.
AS you can see from the pics all 4 need somthinhg doing.
Ive seen advertised the repair panels, but never having done any bodywork before i wonderd what they were like to fit. I can weld (just replaced both chassie leggs). Also as the doors have been bodged before and have nearly 1/2 and inch of filler over a crude repare pannel losing the original shape, would this be a problem in fitting the repares?
Could it be a better idea to try and find a better set of doors and save myself the trouble. If so wheres the best place to look?
I hope someone can help as i need to doo the sills next and someone told me that its best to check the door fit befopre welding it all up. With these i might as well not bother.
Thanks for you time
Edd
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:30 am
by Chris Morley
Sorry, there are no easy answers to this. Rust free Minor doors (without an expensive Minor attached) are pretty rare. You may search for a long time without having any luck. Scrap cars that have rusty floorpans tend to have rusty doors as well. It took me two years just to find a solid driver's door (which has a dent). Also remember that the rear doors are somewhat rarer as they are unique to the 4 door saloon.
The repair panels are available, but it is quite difficult to spot weld these without distorting the doorskin, and then dress and fill the join. Speaking to my local specialist, they prefer to fit a new doorskin. Although the doorskin costs much more than the repair panel, they reckon this works out cheaper in the end due to labour charges.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:33 am
by Chris Morley
Sorry, there are no easy answers to this. Rust free Minor doors (without an expensive Minor attached) are pretty rare. You may search for a long time without having any luck. Scrap cars that have rusty floorpans tend to have rusty doors as well. It took me two years just to find a solid driver's door (which has a dent). Also remember that the rear doors are somewhat rarer as they are unique to the 4 door saloon.
The repair panels are available, but it is quite difficult to spot weld these without distorting the doorskin, and then dress and fill the join. Speaking to my local specialist, they prefer to fit a new doorskin. Although the doorskin costs much more than the repair panel, they reckon this works out cheaper in the end due to labour charges.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:20 am
by Peetee
I have a pair of black drivers-side doors that do need a repair to the bottoms but look in better shape that yours. They are complete with handles, locks windows, frames etc.
Interested?
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:46 am
by edd
I have a pair of black drivers-side doors that do need a repair to the bottoms but look in better shape that yours. They are complete with handles, locks windows, frames etc.
Interested?
Pete. I would be intersted (depending price ect.) Although im relying on my folks for transport at the mo so collection might be a problem (not shure yet)
Speaking to my local specialist, they prefer to fit a new doorskin.
I diddnt think there were doorskins available for the 4 doors. The only ones ive seen are the 2 doors. Im worried about its the lack of internal structure at the bottom The repare section for this is noware near big enough.
Cheers
Edd
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:06 am
by Kevin
Edd you could try Morris Services at Colchester 01206 542039 to see if he has any spares
Or Roger who runs Morris Surplus 07768 734339 9am-6pm he is really helpful and is a member of the North London Branch, who can arrange delivery if he has what you need.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:49 pm
by Peetee
If the bottom inner and outer repair sections are particular to the 4-door model I have a pair of these for the front door too. If they are long enough for the 2-door cars thought I will be keeping them 'cos Doris will need them.
Doors + repair sections £50 + p&p sound OK?
door repaire
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:27 pm
by phil63
Hello there
From bitter experience I have found it better to repair doors that fit than looking for a "better" one that probably will not fit when you have painted it . There seems to be considerable difference in the measurement of the gap for a door !!!! mine is half inch difference on either side and the "better" door I bought will not fit without moving the wing... Philip
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 10:49 pm
by edd
Pete Any idea how much the p and p will be? Im Still intersted. I think the repair panels are shorter for the 4 door though i think ive seen some that are 2 door just cat down
Cheers
Edd
Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 7:35 am
by Peetee
Edd,
I'll try and find out the p&p tomorrow. The door repair sections do match the door, I was going to use them all on the 4-door I sold in the summer.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:54 pm
by edd
Pete
Sorry to be a pain. Ive just been given a 4door out of the blue by a guy 8 doors away, so i shant need the doors now. I hope this hasnt caused too much agro.
Edd
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 3:59 pm
by Kevin
Thats often the way Edd, I was after a couple of late saloon light units to experiment with and ended up paying £5 for a pair and then a couple of days later got given a couple.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 4:02 pm
by MrA.Series
Sod's Law strikes again!
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 5:53 pm
by rayofleamington
Hi Edd,
If you'r nolonger going to do the black car, does it have a good bootlid (no filler)?
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:09 pm
by edd
Ray
Unfortunately the boot is full of filler although it doesnt show it in the photo. I still plan to finnish it though as its now almost sound underneath bar the drivers side sill and was a low millage one owner car with alot of local history. I live about 6 miles from where it was originaly purchased.
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:13 pm
by Peetee
I hope this hasnt caused too much agro.
No worries. I didn't manage to get anything sorted yesterday. Tell you the truth I didn't know where to start as I couldn't find out the weight of the things anyway!
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:20 pm
by rayofleamington
from memory (bitter painful memory) they are darn heavy!
I onbce carried a door nearly a mile from an autojumble to the carpark. ouch.
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 12:24 am
by brixtonmorris
edd how about this pile cant see the bottoms of the doors though
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... gory=27381
Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:12 pm
by iwant1
How easy are doors to repair, i have a well and truely knackered drivers door but wouldnt have aclue how much a new one would cost. My car is no shown winner, so want to have a bash at repairing it myself. Any advice please
Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 11:59 am
by Kevin
but wouldnt have a clue how much a new one would cost
They are not available, just the door skins and repair panels, which is why good second hand ones are in such demand.