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returning MC to store as spare

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:54 am
by wibble_puppy
Ello chaps,

I have this master cylinder which I bought when Alex and I were trying to exorcise the van's brakes. We trial-fitted it, and tested it, so can't return it, and anyway perhaps it's sensible to keep this one as a spare.

So it's already showing signs of rust after a week, not surprising as I left it with a bit of brake fluid in it, in a non-dry environment; and now I want to clean it out and get it ready to store.

I was assuming I would take out the entrails, wash off the brake fluid, wash out the bore and the reservoir, dry everything off very meticulously, and wrap the thing in waxed paper.

Should I though be smearing any preserving stuff on the bits, eg grease, oil etc? Don't want to damage the seals.

Advice welcome :D

wibble 8)

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:40 pm
by bmcecosse
Brake fluid shouldn't make it rust. I would simply clean it with fresh brake fluid - and place it in a sealed zip-lok bag with perhaps a sachet of silica gel to absorb any moisture,

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:57 pm
by wibble_puppy
No, I wasn't thinking that the brake fluid itself would cause rust, but that brake fluid which has absorbed moisture from the air will do (and has, already :( )

Thanks for your advice :)

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:27 pm
by Stig
...then use silicone fluid. :wink:

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:30 pm
by wibble_puppy
Thanks, Stig, but can't as my system is already full of Dot 4 - and the makers of the servo I'm using don't recommend it for use with their machines, anyway.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:28 pm
by Kevin
It wont do any harm to put a little rubber grease on the seals.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:30 pm
by aupickup
or give it to me as a spare :D :D

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:54 pm
by wibble_puppy
It's MY spare! :P

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:41 pm
by bmcecosse
Don't put silicone anywhere near it - if the seals have already 'seen' DOT 4 then when used with silicone fluid they apparently swell up! Don't ask me why - but they do.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:33 pm
by jonathon
Why ? :lol: :lol: :wink:

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:11 pm
by Stig
bmcecosse wrote:Don't put silicone anywhere near it - if the seals have already 'seen' DOT 4 then when used with silicone fluid they apparently swell up! Don't ask me why - but they do.
Mine didn't.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:57 pm
by Luxobarge
I run my Midget with Silicone fluid, and when I converted it the front disk caliper seals and the clutch slave cylinder seal both swelled enough to make the pistons drag a bit. However, rear drum cylinders and master cylinder seals were fine. That's not to say they didn't swell a bit, but not so much that it caused any sort of problem. Anybody thinking of trying it, you might find that the seals wear a bit more as well, as silicone isn't nearly such a good lubricant as mineral DOT4 is.

Regarding storing your MC - I'd make sure there is NO fluid in it, as DOT4 is hydroscopic (absorbs water from the atmpsphere) and this WILL promote rust. I'm a fan of storing stuff with a wipe of vaseline on it if you can get it to the parts that matter.....

Cheers! :D

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:23 pm
by bmcecosse
Hence the suggestion of using silica gel to absorb any moisture!

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:52 pm
by wibble_puppy
thanks, everyone.

You've picked up exactly on my point, Luxobarge - cheers 8)

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:27 pm
by Longdog
Hi Wibble, my suggestion is to use red rubber grease as it is safe on the seals.I always pack this into cylinders upstream of the seals and have used the same wolseley 1500 ones for 15 years as a result having stored them by this method in between.Castrol market this stuff and it is available from an MG supplier

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:54 pm
by bmcecosse
I would worry about using 'Vaseline' which is a petroleum product - and unlikely to be good for rubber seals. The red grease is indeed the correct stuff to use.

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:27 pm
by wibble_puppy
thanks, everyone :D