Engine Steady Cable

Post by **Jefftav** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:52 pm

I have fitted the xmember to the ford type 9 gearbox and bolted eveything up but can't see where the engine steady cable goes? On the minor xmember it has a bracket to fix the cable through.

Do I still need this cable?

Cheers, Jeff

Post by **Matt** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:27 pm

I dont believe its fitted.

My marina engined minor (with marina box) has been fine without.

If you want you could weld a bracket to the T9 x member to put the cable on.

Post by **PSL184** » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:44 pm

Its only there to help stop everything flying forward in a frontal impact so will have no normal effect in everyday driving (assuming you don't go around smashing into things everyday)

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:03 am

Maybe even a full bore 1 G stop will be enough to send the fan into the radiator - so I would make up a bracket and fit a restraint cable of some sort Jeff.

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:14 pm

Seconded by me
(Shock horror...)

Post by **rayofleamington** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:12 pm

thirded.
If the Ford gearbox mounts include some kind of forward travel limt then maybe you can do without - however most gearbox mounts I've seen don't include protection for this.

As for 1G - your're unlikely to get more than 0.5g braking with standard road tyres (not F1 sticky ones)
I've seen the fan caught on the radiator from an emergency stop. It missed the matrix but got caught just under the top/tank so it set off a screaming fanbelt. (my sister's Minor)

Post by **Cam** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:18 pm

I have this setup and after locking up all 4 wheels once at a reasonable speed, the gearbox did not fly forwards and cause anything to hit anything else! Mine has no steady cable.

If you want a 'belt & braces' approach then you'll need to fabricate something as it is not perceived as needed by the conversion kit manufacturers.

Post by **bigginger** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 8:23 pm

Indeed not - but I'll happily argue with them

Post by **bmcecosse** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:10 pm

The '1G' was slightly tongue-in-cheek, refers of course to Wolseley brakes!

Post by **minor_hickup** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:09 pm

I can confirm if you put a minor sideways through a hedge and then slam into the ground on the other side before rolling onto the cars side the engine fan does contact the radiator slightly.

Shouldn't happen again, I've also got some Wolseley drum brakes now, I'm one of the elite!

Post by **Matt** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:19 pm

The type 9 gearbox mount does have *some* limit of forward motion. Its a V shape running perpendicular to the length of the vehicle with the mount in the bottom of the v

Post by **Onne** » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm

bmcecosse wrote:The '1G' was slightly tongue-in-cheek, refers of course to Wolseley brakes!

Doesn't change the tyres though... unless you fit the aforementioned F1 tyres

Post by **bmcecosse** » Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:10 am

Sadly that's very true - the tyres on my Traveller are hopeless!
However - so are F1 tyres unless pre-heated to ~ 80C, so maybe that's where i'm going wrong ?

Post by **Kevin** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:51 pm

From engine steady cable to F1 tyres glad to see this post staying on track

Post by **MarkyB** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:00 pm

Surely this question is actually about engine and gearbox mounts?
I'm not aware of another car particularly anything more modern that even has this cable.
You would be hard pressed to design a cruder mount than the standard one.

Post by **grumpygrandad** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:04 pm

someone spat there dummy out the other week he ask a question on a subject and several put in there penorth and got wide of the question, some times a straight answer from say a couple of you that know the answer to the question as some times it becomes confusing with two many chiping in, no offence intended to any one,,,grandad

Post by **PSL184** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:19 pm

I would see it like this.... The whole point of a forum is to open your question up to a wider audience. Naturally, you are going to get a variation in answers.. Some people have experienced similar problems or concerns before and other offer sound engineering "theoretical" answers. If you want "one" answer, ask "one" person. If you want am answer taken from different points of view, then ask the forum. I take your point about confusion Grandad but the first one or two answers you get might not be right for each individual case and each individual case might have a different answer to the same question... It keeps your options open

Post by **bmcecosse** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:39 pm

TR 7 certainly has a restraining cable - much the same as Minor.
BTW - There was some 'surprise' at my 1G brake comment - but looking up the original Road Test of a 918cc MM - they got 0.93G braking with the 7" drums ! Anyone got a road test of the later car with 8" front drums to compare ?

Post by **PSL184** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:49 pm

Yes, 0.95g for a 1098 car....
I can scan the road test report if anyone interested.....?

Post by **grumpygrandad** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:50 pm

PSL184 wrote:I would see it like this.... The whole point of a forum is to open your question up to a wider audience. Naturally, you are going to get a variation in answers.. Some people have experienced similar problems or concerns before and other offer sound engineering "theoretical" answers. If you want "one" answer, ask "one" person. If you want am answer taken from different points of view, then ask the forum. I take your point about confusion Grandad but the first one or two answers you get might not be right for each individual case and each individual case might have a different answer to the same question... It keeps your options open

i except what you say but sometime things do get wide of the mark,, grandad

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