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trapped air

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:06 pm
by les
Any tips on removing air lock from heater would be gratefully received, the system was filled from scratch and the heater was dry. Symptoms-----cold air.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:29 pm
by PSL184
Remove heater pipes from bulkhead and fill heater from there. Then when the rest of the system is full run with the rad cap off. You can also bleed air from the heater control valve by loosening the connection to the head.....

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:33 pm
by les
Thanks, done as you suggested, but kept the cap on! Makes sense to let the air out!

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:35 pm
by PSL184
Keep squeezing the hoses as well as this can help to work the bubbles out the system....

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:54 am
by morrisman1
i bled my system by filling the entire system through the hose going from the block to the heater, i took it off the block and put the water in the hose. it went through the heater down into the radiator, through the radiator and into the block and then filled the block and leaked out the heater fitting on the block. then it was a case of very very quickly lower the hose down onto the fitting. seemed to work alright, i havnt had problems.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:32 am
by Cam
morrisman1 wrote:i bled my system by filling the entire system through the hose going from the block to the heater, i took it off the block and put the water in the hose. it went through the heater down into the radiator, through the radiator and into the block and then filled the block and leaked out the heater fitting on the block. then it was a case of very very quickly lower the hose down onto the fitting. seemed to work alright, i havnt had problems.
I have done exactly the same when filling the system from 'dry'. Mind you, I did check that the heater matrix was not blocked first! I would try the above first and if no result then check the heater matrix by connecting a garden hose to one pipe and see what comes out of the other (if anything). Also, your heater tap on the back of the engine might be faulty/blocked.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:05 am
by wibble_puppy
very timely thread, I'm about to do mine, thanks everyone 8)

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:06 am
by Kevin
A similar method as already mentioned is with the engine running just take of one of the heater pipes and reconnect as soon as water appears which is normally straight away this normally burps the system.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:21 am
by JuNK512G
Extreme but it works. Radiator bleed valve. Charlie.<br>Image<br>

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:47 am
by mike.perry
When you have carried out those instructions take the car for a run. The extra speed of the water pump should push any remaining air out of the system

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:09 pm
by rayofleamington
When you have carried out those instructions take the car for a run. The extra speed of the water pump should push any remaining air out of the system
I've always done this to bleed the heater - the water pump at speed should provide enough flow to flush air out fo the heater. beware though if the heater is totally empty as all that air will end up 'somewhere' in the cooling system.

If in doubt, fill the heater with the garden hose on one pipe - the excess water comes out the open pipe connection.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:18 pm
by bmcecosse
I've never in all my years known the heater system not to self bleed. Really should be no need for any back-filling or bleeding - provided the hoses aren't kinked and the heater valve is open of course!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:21 pm
by alex_holden
Like Kevin says, but it has to be the heater outlet hose you take off. I take the heater hose off the top end of the bent copper pipe, open the heater control valve, start the engine, rev it until coolant starts to spurt out of the hose, then stick the hose back onto the pipe. A bit messy but it definitely works. You'll have to top the radiator up afterwards.

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:28 pm
by wibble_puppy
*scribbles notes* 8)

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:31 pm
by bmcecosse
Seriously - just fill it up to the brim and rev the engine - that's all you need to do!

Re: trapped air

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:24 pm
by xpress
i've never seemed to have had any trouble bleeding the system either, i figure it's not a fussy cooling circuit like some modern cars and the bypass hose from the rad allows anything to burp out. running fluid through the heater is a good idea tho.

Re: trapped air

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:15 pm
by les
You're nearly 3 years too late!!!!!!!

Re: trapped air

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:16 pm
by RobMoore
I have no problems getting rid of my trapped wind :P

Re: trapped air

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:03 am
by xpress
i get told off if i do that!

Re: trapped air

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:04 am
by xpress
as for the 3 years gap between posting, it's been a long time, i just had to find the right words! :D