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Strange A-Series Head
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:20 pm
by Peetee
Saw this in a Mini hill climb car a few weeks back. Aparently it was sourced from Holland.
The cylinder head is a real odd one. It is cross flow but the exhaust is still siamesed even though it has 4 inlet ports. Furthermore, the inlet casting is still visible on the exhaust side!! That would suggest that it started as a standard casting but how on earth would you reverse the inlets? - and the inlet side has an additional width of casting to space out the carbs.
It's just plain odd and I can't work it out.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:27 pm
by PSL184
I've seen crossflow heads on a B series before but not on an A series. No reason why the same mods couldn't be incorporated though I guess....
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:05 pm
by rayofleamington
the only cross flow head I've seen on an A series was an Arden 8 port head (on a hill climber space frame car pretending to be a mini)
On tinternet I've seen BMW bike heads on a mini engine, but that's a different game requiring plugging and reworking the block for water and stud holes... so at some point it's much less of an A-series.
As for the 7 port head - that must be some rare beast!!
I've no real idea how that came about but if they managed to get a prototype aluminium A series head (apparently some were produced) they could have reworked it and TIG'd it about to add the other ports.
More things are possible with aluminium heads - a friend of mine is part way through making a 32 valve stag engine using Dolomite heads. The custom cams were relatively cheap compared to the quotes for the custom chain sprockets.... and nothing in comparison to the quotes he got for a gear-driven-Cam version (custom gears are darn expensive)
Fortunately he's a wizz on ProE so at least he can get it properly designed and only have to shell out on the metal bits.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:10 pm
by jonathon
Is it not just a 7 port head ?. A friend of mine manufacturers 7 port heads so might be able to glean some info for you
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:19 pm
by Robins
OOOh that looks so nice

I want one.
Then I found the price
http://www.minisport.com/acatalog/Mini_ ... Heads.html
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:30 pm
by rayofleamington
well you live and learn! I hadn't heard of 7 port heads on A series before.
For what you get, the ~£1500 sounds pretty reasonable!
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:36 pm
by jonathon
I'll find the price from the manufacturer

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:02 pm
by bmcecosse
The advantage of the 7 port is that it uses the standard cam shaft and exhaust manifold. 8 Port is better - but special cam and exhaust required. I was involved in building one of the very first Arden 8 port engines many years ago - even with a 320/320 Super Sport cam fitted - it was fantastically tractable and revved to the moon!
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:35 pm
by IslipMinor
Yes, it's a 7-port head, which are now supplied by Mini Sport - here's the link:
http://www.minisport.com/acatalog/7_Port.html
Prices range from £1,300 to >£1,800, depending on spec. Anyone know who's got one?
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:22 pm
by bmcecosse
Of course - the BMW ohc head conversion is supposedly even better.<br>

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This conversion by Simon at Morspeed - on a 970 engine I sold to him!
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:40 pm
by jonathon
Sam Anker (green custom Minor Pickup fame) had/has one of these fitted.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:18 pm
by mike.perry
Leyland Special Tuning used to make an 8 port A series head in both cast iron and alloy. Part nos. C- AEG 612 and C-AHT 346. They cost £180 and £230. These heads would take fuel injection, twin Weber carbs or four Amal carbs
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:24 pm
by bmcecosse
The cast iron heads are very rare! Only ever saw them on Works Rallycross cars at Oulton Park - not entirely sure they were actually ever available to the general public!
Their alloy head was the Arden one.
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:29 pm
by rayofleamington
I did quite like my friend's Arden head - with the throttle slides lifted you could see straight to the head on the inlet valve...
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:46 am
by wanderinstar
Minisport make there own heads. They are cast locally in West Yorkshire.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:29 am
by bmcecosse
Makes a change from China! You don't happen to cart them on your truck do you Ian ? Any chance one could 'fall off the lorry' ??
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:45 pm
by wanderinstar
Hehe, wish I did. But it would still need machining.
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:08 pm
by bmcecosse
I would manage - somehow!
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:36 am
by Kevin
I spotted this one earlier this year
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Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:11 am
by bmcecosse
Very nice - no split circuit brakes (or servo) there. Dynamo drive looks interesting. And the throttle control looks beuatifully effective. I would wonder about air flow into these trumpets - so close to the front bar - I would twist them all round clockwise to let them breathe! And - it's got hydrolastic suspension - very rare these days .
Not understanding the large white pipe coming up between 1 and 2 intakes - any ideas Kevin ?