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fuel pump mounting fixings stripped...

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:47 pm
by wibble_puppy
hi guys,

the fuel pump is bolted to the side of the battery tray with two bolts.

One of the bolts from mine is kind of cut off sharply at the end, making it a bit short.

It's clearly stripped the threads from inside the pump.

My plan is to loctite it in place to get through the MOT :-? and then do something to overhaul the unit and sort out the stripped thread inside the housing.

Is it feasible to try and repair the stripped thread in this way? without specialist tools?

Grateful as ever for any advice and tips!

wibble 8)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:05 pm
by les
Maybe you could tap it out to the next convenient size if there is enough metal around the holes. 5/16 is the next size up. That way it's a proper job!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:25 pm
by Packedup
With all the work that's gone into your van, I'd be tempted to fit another pump rather than start having odd sized bolts in there. Doesn't worry me on the pickup, but that's because that's never going to be near perfect and is a quick save it from the idiots job.

I might be tempted to do some strange things with epoxy to reuse the correct bolt in what you've got, not sure it would work though!

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:29 pm
by wibble_puppy
Packedup wrote:With all the work that's gone into your van, I'd be tempted to fit another pump rather than start having odd sized bolts in there.
Yeah, that's the long-term plan :D
I might be tempted to do some strange things with epoxy to reuse the correct bolt in what you've got, not sure it would work though!
Worth a go as a temporary measure - not got time (or tools) to try tapping etc for the first ever time! Thanks v much for the suggestion, though, les :D

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:39 pm
by Packedup
I'm wondering...

If you greased the bolt first (the bolt you want to use, not the one that seems to have done the damage), then lined it up in the hole with just a trace of epoxy around it, would the grease stop everything glueing together, so the bolt can be undone again? That way you'd have a pretty reasonable thread to work with.

Probably some glaringly obvious reason it won't work, but just my late night musings :)

Posted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:52 pm
by alex_holden
Yes, an epoxy resin (the 'metal' epoxy putty is probably most suitable) can be used to repair stripped threads in aluminium. It's a bit of a bodge and won't be as strong as the original metal but it's quick and easy and should be good enough as a temporary measure to get you through the MOT and to the National where you can search for a better pump. It's worth carrying a spare working pump anyway, particularly if you are going on a long-distance road trip...

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:54 am
by Alec
Hello Wibble,

there is a Helicoil type kit available called Recoil which is both easy and affordable. They are available in UNF and UNC sizes. Not sure if the pump is fine or coarse but it is a permanent fix. Have a look at :- http://www.toolfastdirect.co.uk/acatalo ... _Kits.html

Well worth having a range of sizes for those inevitable problems that happen at the worst possible times.

Alec

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:03 am
by wibble_puppy
cheers, guys :D all very very short of time here so will do whatever is fastest and involved least shopping trips!!! thanks very much for all your suggestions :D

*rushes back to van* :o

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:34 am
by bmcecosse
Certainly don't use Loctite! I would first drill the hole to clear out any old thread etc then fill the hole with 'metal epoxy' (Poundland sell it!) and when fully cured - drill and tap a new thread. It's easy and will be permanent.

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:22 pm
by MarkyB
You need to go easy tightening up bolts that thread into alloy especially when you are using a socket wrench.
If you think of how long the spanner would be and just grip the ratchet about there just using wrist power and not pulling on it as hard as you can you won't strip threads and things won't fall off.
I use the socket on the starting handle to do up my wheel nuts and although I do give it a good pull its a very short lever.
Even so the wheels don't fall off :)
There are only a few things on a Minor you need to put some grunt into.
The crankshaft pulley and the head bolts spring to mind.

thread

Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:06 pm
by Willie
The 'Helicoil' system works a treat but you need to find a workshop which
has the kit. It will be a simple job for them to insert a new thread.